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Post by elantaura on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:22 am

I dislike the neon rainbow one stroke, I also find it difficult to get on with a brush. but I do the regular rainbow with that kid who won't sit still and the parents go cant you just do somthing small - these children all get rainbows.

as for one stroke cakes I recomend snake and dragon as just browsing this forum and through use myself,I think most people would agree that they are useful. I have my favs which are different to other peoples but snake and dragon seem to be something most painters have and use.

with the larger split I would go with Tag fairy floss, simply as you have a big neon, and your prisma (flash) it a rainbow so I would say fairy floss as it is pretty. and the tag rainbow dose look different from the prisma one but as you have a prisma I feel that telling you to get fairy floss is less of a double up of colours so to speak.

Zombies - fleshtone colours if you dont have them, and I love the snaz blood cake, also browns and grey.
paradise black for shading I used a wash for a long time but having paradise black just makes things simpler and there are just some things a wash can't do that paradise black can. It's also good for zombies as you have a black tone less black than wolfe, tag or DFX - dose that make sense?

As for brushes. every one has there own personal choice. but If you find a brand you like and it is working for you. be it Lowe cornell, royal, paradise etc stick with that while you are building i.e. round, filbert, flat ect as the bristles tend to be similar if you keep with a series i.e. soft or stiffer, after that then try different ones. you may find you like a stiffer detail brush, softer one stroke who knows we are all different and brushes everyone finds there niche eventually. but while building I would say stick with what you know works for you already but try different types/shapes, and then try some other brands. If you have done this already got a supply of diferent types/shapes in a brand, then you could try some other brands.
I didn't do it that way however as I am a face paint and brush addict and kept buying stuff but is somthing I now think I probebly should have done in hindsight.



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Post by rthling on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:37 am

I had trouble loading a brush with the neon rainbow without muddying, too. But I learned to load a sponge on the back and pounce and pull to create a brilliant neon rainbow. Now I love it!

Here is a video of what I mean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErJJmY8WSQY

Please excuse the glare. I did this on my iPhone and the lighting isn't great.
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Post by PerfectlyPaintedFaces on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:40 am

Thanks for the tip, Diane! I never even thought of using a sponge with the one-strokes... duh! I think that will solve my neon rainbow problem. Smile
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:31 pm

PerfectlyPaintedFaces wrote:
Miss Ronnie wrote:
PerfectlyPaintedFaces wrote:As for one strokes, I'd recommend a rainbow (not neon) and a leaf. If you like doing dragons/boy designs, a flame one-stroke would be useful too. A rose one would be good if you like doing roses. Many people like the unicorn one-stroke as well. Honestly... it just depends on what kind of designs you enjoy doing!

As for brushes.. if you're on a budget I'd recommend Simply Simmons. They have them at Walmart and Michael's. I think they're about 4-6 dollars each... and I like them better than my Loew-Cornelles.

I don't have Starblends, but I assume the most used ones would be black and white. Maybe a red for Spiderman.

If you don't have some already, I also recommend Mama Clown fairy dust glitter... I finally got some after so many recommendations, and I love it. I'd never used a poofer bottle before and its GREAT! It's so easy to give an overall glittery look on your designs.

I recommend a neon rainbow one stroke for ANYONE! I use this so much...anytime any little one wants a rainbow.. it's much more vivid. Also, whenever you have an undecided child, a curvy rainbow down the cheek or arm is perfect...add a few white dots, starbursts and five point stars (for boys) and for girls maybe a couple of tiny white hearts and top it with white fairy dust glitter.

I have SUCH trouble working with my neon rainbow. No matter how many times I run my brush over the thing, I can never get it opaque enough. I also find it muddies a lot easier than my other one-strokes. I love my big neon rainbow cake... but the one-stroke drives me crazy! I wish I got a normal rainbow instead.

I had that trouble at first as well. The way to conquer it is to use as little water as possible when originally loading the brush... you will know while loading it that it is too dry. Then dip the very tippy-tip into your water and load some more. Plus, you have to be extra careful when loading to make sure your colors line up on the brush or you won't get the vibrancy.

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Post by Misha on Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:51 pm

I'm right there with you in that I'm just starting my kit. That being said one of the things I use most is the palette of pressed mica powders I made. You can find the thread on here, as that's where I learned about them. I find they help supplement my Wolfe appetizer palette greatly, in fact I used them just this past weekend to make a cheetah since I didn't have an appropriate color for it. It's great for spidey eyes on flinching boys too! Don't get me wrong, I'm sure I'll replace them with starblends once I start making money - but until then...


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Post by vegas mom on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:16 pm

Hi
i am making my last paint order for a while : ( So I thought I'd seek some final purchase advise...I read Denises on stroke and rainbow cake uses, and now for the starblends. I figure white, black, red, need 3 other colors. Remember I live in the desert and have little to no humidy, so do starblends even matter here like in Texas or Florida. I have ez access to snaz red, white and blacks for spider or base work... I am thinking one Mark Reid brush. Suggestion for size? I have a hard time with thin black lines around the mouth....Here's what I have as a starter kit..
TAG- one strokes; rose, dolphin, one with no name(yellow, blue green and pink.
TAG- 2 color split: magenta/orange, red/orangie yellow, purple/pink and lt green dark/ dark green
TAG-neon rainbow and fairy floss
TAG singles- regular blue, teal, liliac dark blue, purple, yellow,
pearl whilte, old gold
neon yellow
Wolfe-Red
Diamond FX- 2 white and 2 black
ample colors of snaz.
Any fillers that you can think of?
I have glitter. Do you use it out of the poof bottle or prefer the round container? thanks
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Post by Peppermint_Mill on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:49 pm

Hi FaceAndBodyFX! So glad I inspired you!! :-). I'd be more than happy to post my pictures. Would you mind waiting a week or so? I'm flying out to beautiful Australia and will be back in 10 days. I'll post my pix then. Thanks!! :-)
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:59 pm

vegas mom wrote:Hi
i am making my last paint order for a while : ( So I thought I'd seek some final purchase advise...I read Denises on stroke and rainbow cake uses, and now for the starblends. I figure white, black, red, need 3 other colors. Remember I live in the desert and have little to no humidy, so do starblends even matter here like in Texas or Florida. I have ez access to snaz red, white and blacks for spider or base work... I am thinking one Mark Reid brush. Suggestion for size? I have a hard time with thin black lines around the mouth....Here's what I have as a starter kit..
TAG- one strokes; rose, dolphin, one with no name(yellow, blue green and pink.
TAG- 2 color split: magenta/orange, red/orangie yellow, purple/pink and lt green dark/ dark green
TAG-neon rainbow and fairy floss
TAG singles- regular blue, teal, liliac dark blue, purple, yellow,
pearl whilte, old gold
neon yellow
Wolfe-Red
Diamond FX- 2 white and 2 black
ample colors of snaz.
Any fillers that you can think of?
I have glitter. Do you use it out of the poof bottle or prefer the round container? thanks

I lived in Vegas for many years and even though you don't have the humidity you still have the scorching heat. Some (but not all) kids perspire when they are engaged in heavy play, no matter if they are outdoors or indoors. The Starblends do not run when the child sweats...HOWEVER... any details or line work you do with regular paint will run if the child sweats a lot... Still, it is an all-around better choice for Starblends when the kids are extremely active.
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Post by vegas mom on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:21 am

Thanks Miss Ronnie.
Looking for base colors then. Teddy bear? Tiger/leopard? Not familiar with starblends colors at all. Cactus??? JK Very Happy
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:13 pm

I have almost all the Starblends... there are a few natural skin colors I don't have. I use the red for Spidey, dragons, monsters, and lady bug masks. Green for green skulls, Hulk, monsters, dragons, witches, frogs, white for Spidey eyes, skulls, vampires, geishas and more. Blue is good for dragons, wolverine, blue batman, dolphins, monsters. Yellow for Wolverine, SpongeBob. Black for lots of things and shading, too. Haven't used purple yet, but I will challenge myself to. I do elephants and sharks with grey. Lions and chimps with mixing brown, ebony, Eqyptian, Oriental.

Here is my son as a lion all done with Starblends except for the black line details and white whiskers.
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Post by vegas mom on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:37 pm

Thanks Ronnie
I just placed my starblend order..I ordered black, yellow, orange, ebony, white, and either lt tan or oriental. The sample colors where I ordered werent that great and they were out of red. (boo hoo) I wanted to get in on their sale tho. Thanks again..
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Post by vegas mom on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:38 pm

PS thats a great lion. Hopefully with practice Ill be able to paint almost that well..
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Post by faceandbodyfx on Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:00 pm

No problem Peppermint.

Have fun wish I were you.

Peppermint_Mill wrote:Hi FaceAndBodyFX! So glad I inspired you!! :-). I'd be more than happy to post my pictures. Would you mind waiting a week or so? I'm flying out to beautiful Australia and will be back in 10 days. I'll post my pix then. Thanks!! :-)
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Post by Peppermint_Mill on Sat May 05, 2012 11:52 pm



Totally off topic here Peppermint, but I was reading your post and would love to see your one stroke turtle, sand shark, tiger lily, whale and periwinkle flowers. Many are designs that intrigue me but have never tried.

Thanks
for the inspiration.

Hello, faceandbodyfx, I'm back! :-) Sorry for the delay but here are some quick one stroke designs I did of the 5 items you asked for. I lent my magpie to another painter so I used my rose split for the whale, hopefully you still get the idea. For these five pictures, I used rose, ocean, fire and leaf split. Even the black and white line work are from these splits. Thus you can do a lot of different designs with just some basic splits. Sorry for the periwinkle flowers in the yellow light but dinner came between my first 4 pictures and the periwinkle. :-)





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Post by a face painting mom on Mon May 07, 2012 12:00 am

If you live near a Menards, get that Plano rolling tool box, it is THE BOMB! I love it! Watch the sales, it goes on sale every few weeks for 49.00! A MUST have for me. Finding brushes you like is trial and error, and the coupons help, but also, the Micheals coupon can score you some good wolfe, if you buy the klutz book with the coupon (it is 24.99) the book comes with an apetizer pallet and a wolfe #2 or 3 brush. totally worth the 15 bucks or so with the coupon, and a much better deal than buying snaz at Micheals any day.

For me, mama clown glitter, wolf white and black, star blend white, red and black, a red and white split, juicy fruit, a rainbow of some sort (not too particular) all the tag pearls (pink, white, blue, purple, teal) and leaf one stroke, and a couple of girly one strokes, and I am pretty set (plus a standard pallet, of course!) And...Ben Nye Lumeire powders, blood, a bruise wheel squirt blood and coagulated blood...and bad naughty word stencils...oh my...oh my...the list....just....gets....longer....
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Post by Denise Cold on Mon May 07, 2012 1:12 am

Wow, Miss Ronnie...I love that lion and I just ordered more Starblends and had to choose between the brown and blue and I chose blue! ARrrggh. I was thinking puppies and here you go with that design. Fabulous. Might have to make room!

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Post by martha on Mon May 07, 2012 12:00 pm

l!zzie wrote:Everything said: split cake leaves is a must have indeed!
I also love splits with purple but that's personal taste.
Also love liquid blings like Suzy Sparkles, they really pop a design!

Is the glitter from glitter tats usable on the face?!
Thought I read somewhere that it's not suitable for that?

Typically not. Tulip glitter for sure says to keep away from eyes. Some of the Wolfe glitter that I looked at said the same thing. You need to be sure to look for cosmetic glitter if going anywhere near eyes.
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Post by Face Painting by Jessica on Mon May 07, 2012 4:06 pm

This is such a helpful topic for me right now given my "Student volunteer helper" situation, lol.

I'm trying to compress my replacement order into the basics, and I'm wondering if I should even bother with regular colours or if I should just get all metallics.
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Mon May 07, 2012 4:46 pm

Oh, you should still use regular colors!!! Metallics/pearls are great and definitely have their special place, but not every design is going to look right in them.

Why not order split cakes from TAG for all your regular colors? A little of each, plus they blend beautifully together.

That's my two cents anyway... cyclops
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Post by Face Painting by Jessica on Mon May 07, 2012 6:25 pm

Ah, like Spidey... I don't know of many metallic Spidermen lol!!

I'm thinking:

Red
White 90g
Black 90g
Yellow
Grey
Light Blue
Dark Blue
Light Green
Dark Green
Purple

Pearl Pink/White split
Pearl Purple/Green Split
Berry Wind

Rose 1 stroke
Dolphin 1 stroke
Dragon 1 stroke

Neon Rainbow base blender

And some glitter and butterfly brush Smile

Anything else?
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Post by Peppermint_Mill on Mon May 07, 2012 7:01 pm

I can't go without my leaf split. I also use a lot of pink for the girls and orange for classic tigers and cheetahs. You could mix these colors but I just don't have time during the parties to do any mixing. I don't use my butterfly brush very much at all. I find it easier to just use a flat brush with a split to paint the wings quickly. Sometimes brown is also a good color to have for teddy bears and other animals.
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Post by Denise Cold on Mon May 07, 2012 7:04 pm

Hate butterfly brushes...just learn one-stroke ones and buy another 3/4" brush.

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Post by Miss Ronnie on Mon May 07, 2012 11:12 pm

I have a couple of butterfly brushes that I made.. I use them when I need to do a quickie butterfly for the tiniest tots... on their arms. I also use them for an instant quickie sideview butterfly that I can lay down in or around flowers.

But for making great and distinctive one stroke butterflies, yeah, use a 3/4 flat.
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Post by tamarielpaints on Tue May 08, 2012 12:09 am

Face Painting by Jessica wrote:Ah, like Spidey... I don't know of many metallic Spidermen lol!!

I'm thinking:

Red
White 90g
Black 90g
Yellow
Grey
Light Blue
Dark Blue
Light Green
Dark Green
Purple

Pearl Pink/White split
Pearl Purple/Green Split
Berry Wind

Rose 1 stroke
Dolphin 1 stroke
Dragon 1 stroke

Neon Rainbow base blender

And some glitter and butterfly brush Smile

Anything else?

Honestly, I disagree with some of what Miss Ronnie said. I have 2 laptops: one contains only splits (50g and abc's) and the other contains pearl TAG. The only 2 colors I use ALL the time that are 'regular' are my Wolf White (90 g) and my red snaz. Following Denise's suggestion, I've basically completely switched to Pearl Black for all of my face painting (washes off slightly easier).

What do you plan on making with the pearl purple/green split? I feel like those colors brown up when you use them together. Also, I recommend the pearl white - it's not 'solid' enough to use instead of a white, but it makes a lovely sponged backdrop for butterflies.

If it were me, instead of the separate dark green and the lite green, I'd get the two together as one 50 g split.
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Post by Denise Cold on Tue May 08, 2012 1:41 am

You could create a smaller kit by thinking boy/girl. For the girly colors you can do the pearl splits and for the boy colors you can do regular splits instead of having a full rainbow in both types. I'm going to assume we're talking TAG here because I think in terms of TAG and 50gm splits. I even transfer my Wolfe white into a square container now...so I buy a 90gm to save money but only "pack" half a split of it. I took a hard look at what I've used most in the last 6 months and this is a must have list:

TAG Pearl colors in 50gm splits:
Teal/Pink
Purple/Lilac
Gold/Copper
Orange/Yellow

TAG Regular colors in 50gm splits:
Dark Green/Light Green
Dark Blue/Light Blue
Brown/Mid Brown
Orange/Golden Orange* (I prefer my Pearl Orange/Yellow split for tigers but the colors aren't good for other things, like Sponge Bob)
* I like golden orange better than regular yellow but you'd have a hard time finding this split. I had to make it.

Denise's Pearl/Regular Same Color Splits. (I made these to be able to mix the colors to take advantage of their different properties ie: mix white and pearl white for sponging so it's more sheer and has slight shimmer but still has good coverage.)
Wolfe Black/TAG Pearl Black
Wolfe White/TAG Pearl White
TAG regular red/TAG Pearl Red
Regular Grey/Pearl Silver (I actually have Tulip Silver and TAG silver but this would be a good split to keep grey in your kit but make the TAG silver more opaque for knights/elephants/cyborgs)

One-Stroke:
4 Rainbow (Must easier to work with than neon rainbow and I use the colors for blossoms. Kids love rainbows.)
Snake (for boy things like monsters but a must for leaves)
Dragon (flames, snakes, dragons but great for hibiscus flowers)
Magpie (everything...sharks, flowers, eye designs, wings, skulls)
Berry (roses, crowns, eye designs)
Dolphin (dolphins, flowers, roses, crowns, eye designs)
Unicorn (girls love it...go figure...ditto above...except dolphins)
Patriot (Because you'll want something 4th of July soon)

50gm Rainbow Cakes:
Carnival (I just got this but already love it more than a Neon Rainbow...it blends into a rainbow.)
Havana Sunset (I don't have this but it's a lot like a Juicy Fruit Cake which is fabulous)

If you have the money you might consider buying these colors in full sizes and then using the empty containers to make your own splits and rainbows later on. I'm still DYING to transfer my rounds I have left into square containers.

I put my paints in a small scrapbook case so you could see that you can have a small kit with tons of options. (I don't have the brown split yet or the havana rainbow so I substituted other colors)

Sorry...I've gone on too much but if I were starting again, this is what I would use just starting out until I got some more money. Knowing what I know now, I'd probably buy my Starblends first before I bought other colors. Boys really respond (or should I say DON'T respond) to the powders.

Here's a couple of pictures of how the squares would fit in a paper holder and also how the carnival split looks on.



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