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Post by Mickie on Thu May 10, 2012 11:57 pm

I am in Las Vegas. Yesterday it was 100+ degrees in the afternoon and it's only going to get hotter. End of June, July and most of August we are looking at 105-110+. The lovely shark I painted on a boy at my son's school literally melted down his face after ran around outside for 5 mins. I wanted to cry. I called him back in to take his picture and he walked in looking like an acid burned Smurf. Most of what I have in my kit is Paradise with a couple of arty cakes and some Wolfe. The white and black Wolfe that I did the line work in seemed fine but the glycerin based Paradise was just a mess. I am leary of using all Wolfe or DFX because I keep reading that blending with them is really difficult. So is there something else I could be doing to the glycerin based paint or do I just need to suck it up and learn to blend with wax based paint?? Thank you in advance!
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Fri May 11, 2012 12:05 am

You need Starblends and/or other powders for your main color bases. Metina sells them in the face paint forum shop. Type Starblends in the search bar and you'll find lots of info about them. Ben Nye has Lumiere powders which are shimmery, beautiful and vibrant.
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Post by vegas mom on Fri May 11, 2012 1:21 am

Mousears mom, what part of Vegas are you in?
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Post by Mita on Fri May 11, 2012 8:06 pm

Do the starblends smear or rub off easily, Miss Ronnie?
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Post by Becky521 on Fri May 11, 2012 8:44 pm

Starblends are a pressed powder that applies dry. They don't sweat, smear or rub off like water based face paints. The paints you use on top may still run in extreme hot and humid weather, but the starblends will not.
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Post by CottonKandyClown on Sat May 12, 2012 7:15 am

Starblends are the way to go! I do know that the linework still will melt in 100 degree weather. Of course, the one time I did it, it was on a fireman for the 4th of July and he was sweating like crazy! LOL
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Post by martha on Sat May 12, 2012 8:46 am

Just painted last weekend in hot, humidity. Starblend Spidey still looked decent after a couple of hours despite the fact that he was the youngest of the bunch. Even the linework held up pretty well. The non-Starblend work was runny and/or smeared pretty quickly.
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Sat May 12, 2012 10:53 am

The thing with Starblends is you have think outside the normal face painting box.
It would do you well to practice trying to do as many designs that you can, substituting them for regular paint. The same with Ben Nye Lumieres or other powders. We are so quick to naturally gravitate to the paint... but if you practice working with these products you will find that you can do so much with them.
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Post by Becky521 on Sat May 12, 2012 8:21 pm

So true Miss Ronnie. Today, it was about 85F and I was in direct sun with my paints. I had 4 brands in my kit. Tag, Paradise, Wolfe & Snazaroo and the ONLY one that went squishy on me was the Snazaroo. The others stayed perfect to work with.
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Sat May 12, 2012 10:35 pm

Yeah, they're perfect to work with in the heat.... they just don't hold up well to kids running and playing and all that. The kids end up looking like an ice cream melted down their face. and their shirt is filthy.
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Post by Mizzzard on Sat May 12, 2012 10:59 pm

You've all convince me. I took my gift card i got for christmas and headed to the local costume shop and picked up 3 starblends. Tried them out as soon as I got home but it is something different isn't it? lol I'm going to try to get my hands on something like the smoothie blenders to see if that helps because boy howdy they were transparent lol guess it's an excuse to practice (like i really need an excuse:) )
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Post by Astrid on Sun May 13, 2012 3:15 pm

won't the smoothies get wet if a kid has a sweaty face? what do you do?
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Mon May 14, 2012 1:06 am

Good question, Astrid. And the answer is yes. I posted in another thread yesterday that I carry a separate container of wipes that are made just for the face and I gently wipe sweat, tears, food, whatever off their face and then allow it to air dry. Also, it should be noted that hair "grease" can run down from the hair onto the face and it needs to be removed before attempting to use a smoothie or any other tool to apply the Starblends. Even though I call them baby wipes, they are not baby wipes, they are facial wipes and I buy them in a canister at WalMart... I also buy regular baby wipes for my own hands.
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Post by CottonKandyClown on Mon May 14, 2012 6:59 am

I have napkins for sweat and baby wipes for messy faces Smile
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Post by Astrid on Mon May 14, 2012 9:52 pm

thank you Miss Ronnie

cottonkandy-What kind of napkins?
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Post by Mickie on Mon May 14, 2012 10:11 pm

Wow! Thanks everyone! I have two Ben Nye pancake in black and white. Our local shop doesn't carry the colored starblends just the flesh tones. I have ordered a red Ben Nye magiccolor cake because the Nye website said specifically that it is resistant to heat and sweat. I will post what I think of it when I try it out. The black and white worked very well for black mask spidey. It can be used dry or with a damp smoothie blender or sponge. The color is richer if you use a damp smoothie. I put it on my 5 year old and then sent him out to jump on the trampoline and it held up pretty good with minimal smudging and only where he had rubbed at it.
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Post by Mickie on Mon May 14, 2012 10:12 pm

Vegas Mom I am in Spring Valley!
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Post by Caswell Designs FP on Mon May 14, 2012 11:36 pm

I have started carrying a roll of paper towels in my kit to wipe sweaty faces off. It dries them enough so that I can apply starblends or regular face paints. Baby wipes are for messy faces and cleaning my hands.

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Post by CottonKandyClown on Tue May 15, 2012 9:17 am

Astrid wrote:

cottonkandy-What kind of napkins?

Just basic square paper napkins. I use to carry a big roll of paper towels, but the napkins are already folded and seperated so they are easier to grab when I need them Smile
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Post by Astrid on Sun May 27, 2012 1:15 pm

OK yesterday I painted in the heat and I tried wiping kids faces but they still perspired and the Starblends got mixed with sweat. I was really an unhappy painter yesterday. Even my glitter tattoo glue wasn't working.
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Post by Stacia on Sun May 27, 2012 1:24 pm

CottonKandyClown wrote:
Astrid wrote:

cottonkandy-What kind of napkins?

Just basic square paper napkins. I use to carry a big roll of paper towels, but the napkins are already folded and seperated so they are easier to grab when I need them Smile

Have you ever tried the box of Kleenex disposable "Hand Towels"? They're thick paper towels (really similar to Viva paper towels actually), and they come in a cardboard dispenser. They're around $2-$3 a box. I can't live without them and always have a box in my Fat Max.

*sorry about the thread hijack Wink
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Post by Astrid on Tue May 29, 2012 12:38 pm

Thanks Stacia, I am going to try that Smile
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Post by Sweet Loretta on Tue May 29, 2012 2:16 pm

I work in extreme heat very often. Our summer days are 100 to 105 and on the asphalt that can be an easy 120 degrees. I never use Starblends during face painting (only in FX work). I am surprised you had trouble with Paradise, for me it is my best best in hot weather. I never have had my Paradise AQ get messy, gooey or in any way unworkable. Kryolan can get somewhat soft in the heat and Wolfe can become gooey with the constant need for water - but both are still workable. I'd say like anything the more you work in the very hot weather the more you will find ways to make the products you have workable, i.e. in more humid areas one uses less water in dry areas more, you learn what technique with your paints works where.
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Post by Astrid on Tue May 29, 2012 2:26 pm

So what do you do Sweet Loretta, when kids/adults get in your chair and are perspiring profusely even after wiping off the sweat? smiles Astrid
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Post by Lynnie on Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:20 pm

Astrid, I suggest they get something on their arm. I've never had anyone complain or refuse. The arms don't perspire as much as the face. It's all about how you present it to them.

As for wipes...I have 4 booths that I outfit. $3 for a box of 150 wipes adds up when we go through 150 in a single event. I hit the wholesale club and just buy baby wipes and paper towels in massive amounts. I prefer paper towels over napkins because they are contained for travel. I just rip a stack off as part of my prep process, or have my asst do it.
Baby wipes are cheaper than other wipes, and people are familiar with them, so I've found parents are more comfy with them anyway.

The thing is, nothing is impossible. Wolfe can be blended. Like everything we do, it takes practice. If it gets wet then leave it on the dashboard of your car in the sun. This is what Kurt and April recommended in their lecture actually.

I've had Paradise run on a super sweaty person two weeks ago. It's the first time I'd ever seen that without a person touching it first. When I checked, the formula has been changed since I started painting with it. The Wolfe and DFX, however, didn't run. It's smears when touched but it doesn't run.
More and more I'm becoming displeased with Mehron's products and find their quality slipping.
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