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Post by beckibut7 on Sun May 20, 2012 11:48 pm

Hi there. I am fairy (OK really) new to face painting, but have been a professional Stained and Fused glass artist and muralist for years. I love painting faces and want to progress to body painting as well. I live on the beach in Florida so that would fly around here. Right now my kit includes a paradise palette, Wolf/Diamond FX, Star Blends Palette and various shimmer powders from bare minerals(to be replaced with Ben Nye Lumierre palette), not to mention the various glitters and such.
I now have the opportunity to face paint for a local time share resort during Check in hours and also for special events they hold. They hold many events.
Has anyone worked for resorts like this? Question I am wondering what to charge for an hourly rate. The manager was thinking of having me on staff for the Check-ins and then I could charge a per face price for the various special events they hold throughout the year as if I was another vendor.
Any advice?

Thanks!
Becki
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Post by Psalmbook on Mon May 21, 2012 10:25 am

If they are pretty high volume events (lots of people w/ kids) you'd probably do pretty well. Your best business will be on weekends between 11am-close. Weekdays will probably be slower, but might pick up in the travel seasons.

I'd charge $5 per face, one flat rate & have 10 designs you can do in 3-5 minutes. This will help gauge your hourly income. This is how I'm doing my festival tent this year (no more $3 & $10 designs anymore... they take longer & probably are costing me time).
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Post by rharris524 on Mon May 21, 2012 3:39 pm

I work with a few resorts as part of their "kids club" They usually book me for 2-3 hour windows a few times a month on their busier weekends/holidays. They pay me a slightly discounted rate (due to volume of work of work they send my way).
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Post by beckibut7 on Mon May 21, 2012 5:32 pm

Thanks so much for your replies and advice! I can sure use it!

He was talking about paying me an hourly rate for the check-in times and then I can charge per face for the events. Any thought as to a fair hourly rate for something like that? This is on the beach in Florida so LOTS of kids and families and it is a VERY busy resort.
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Post by rharris524 on Tue May 22, 2012 12:13 pm

What do you normally charge per hour?
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Post by beckibut7 on Tue May 22, 2012 2:26 pm

That's just it, I haven't been presented with an opportunity to develop an hourly rate yet. He has seen my work and has seen me in action so he knows what to expect. I have been painting for years including on glass to be fired on. Transitioning to a moving canvas and to a "cartoonish" style is my biggest challenge......of course speed too. I think this will be a great way to develop that quickly. (I tend to be the one that can just do.) Any thoughts?

Interesting side note. I grew up in the 80's and painted my eyes with swirls, etc....everyday to match my outfits. LOL......nails too......
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Post by beckibut7 on Tue May 22, 2012 2:29 pm

oh....btw.....this pic of my son in the little monster face was my 1st one.
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Post by rharris524 on Tue May 22, 2012 3:39 pm

I would say $75 per hour...
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Post by freedspirit on Tue May 22, 2012 5:40 pm

I'm not sure,,if you get an hourly rate plus being able to charge customers it seems unfair to charge the full amount that you would get for painting say at a birthday or fair...I would think of discounting it slightly esp if you are guaranteed a good amount of work regularly..perhaps between $40 -$60..
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Post by Manja on Tue May 22, 2012 5:50 pm

Psalmbook wrote:If they are pretty high volume events (lots of people w/ kids) you'd probably do pretty well. Your best business will be on weekends between 11am-close. Weekdays will probably be slower, but might pick up in the travel seasons.

I'd charge $5 per face, one flat rate & have 10 designs you can do in 3-5 minutes. This will help gauge your hourly income. This is how I'm doing my festival tent this year (no more $3 & $10 designs anymore... they take longer & probably are costing me time).

Ahhhh... $5.00 per face, period? That sounds like a time-saver indeed. So, how is that panning out so far? Does it balance out at the end of the day?

I'm charging $5, $8, and $10. It's a pain to stop to make change. All those 1's... a lot of the time they just say, "Keep it" and that's a plus. I'd say about 40% of my sales are in the $8-$10 range, so I'd have to be moving a lot faster and get a lot more faces done to make up the difference, no?
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Post by Psalmbook on Wed May 23, 2012 7:57 am

It's something a read on here & seemed to take the pain out of all the different prices & having a zillion $3 faces that took the same amount of time as the $5 faces. So now... you pay $5 & I'll only display 3-5 minute faces. I'm not sure yet how it'll pan out since July 4th will be my 1st PPF since the change.

Becki, here's an idea... Try for $100/hr & tell the Resort you'll paint & charge for the faces. At the end of the day, the resort can cover the difference to equal $100/hr. So, If you bring in $85 in PPF work each hour the resort will pay you $15 per hour. I've used this for clubs that want me in, but don't want to pay me. This way I know I make my hourly rate & they get the services they want. Now... if you only make $25 in an hour... they'll own you the other $75....
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Post by beckibut7 on Wed May 23, 2012 8:10 am

That's a great idea Linda! That will be my plan. He wanted it to be "worth my time" and this is the reason for the hourly rate. I like to be fair. This seems very fair. So if I'm very busy it's all good and works for them, if not, it is still fair to me.

LOVE IT!

I don't do $3 faces either. Usually it's $5, $8, and $10. I have shifted toward eliminating the $8 ones so I have the mask or 1/2 face and then the full face. I keep the masks very quick for little ones and include swirly eyes and such with the masks. Everyone is happy. Those that want more detail can get it but the detailed designs are in the $10 range. I find that the Starblends are a Godsend in making designs that much faster! I love those things and with the smoothie blenders from sillyfarm, the coverage is awesome.

Thanks for the replies and advice. I'm calling him today.
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