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If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Dynamike on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:27 pm

Several years ago when the economy was good, I would have a lot of gigs for the weekend. I was able to relax back then. Nowadays it takes a lot of struggling for me to get my phone to ring. Metro Detroit is the hardest hit area in USA.

What I found out that is very helpful is putting more into marketing on the internet. It is helping my business pick up again.

Any one else had any problems because of the economy?

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Perry Noia on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:47 pm

Actually, I have had many parents tell me that it is cheaper to hire me to come to their house for a party than to take 15 kids to Chuck E Cheese... so, in a way, it may have helped me. I don't really have enough history to be able to compare though, I've only been clowning for about a year now.

MUCH of my business has come through Kijiji and my website. Being one of the only ones to put my prices right out there on my website has helped a lot. People are afraid to call and ask for prices and find themselves in an awkward, sticker-shock situation. Since my prices are set anyway and I'm not budging on them, I see no use in trying to convince or sell anyone over the phone. By the time they call me, they've already decided and just want to book.

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Dynamike on Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:57 pm

My old website is down right now. I let the web host expire because I have a new web host. My new "magician" website is still being worked on. It should be up and running within 24 hours.

Later I plan to have a website up for entertainment varieties (that is how my past one was). My other future website will represent me being a clown. I was never a clown. But because of the economy, it will only help.

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by DJohns on Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:41 pm

I've used PartyPop and Gigmasters this year to help locate gigs. Both have been very profitable for me, here in the Northeast. PartyPop is an annual fee to be listed. Gigmasters is a quarterly fee, plus a percentage for each gig booked. You bid against other entertainers on Gigmasters. You may want to look into both sites.

I missed out on an advertising opp this year, but I'm doing it next year! I found out our local Park & Rec looks for sponsors for children's teams. Here it's $100 for the younger kids, and $300 for the traveling team. You get your business name on the back of their shirts for the season. Not bad publicity for relatively cheap!


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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by AngieAnders on Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:25 am

I'm down this year by about 30% compared to last year. I'm trying to make up for it with more festival work and other jobs that allow me to take the initiative as a vendor. This wouldn't work as well for magic or clowning since you can't really charge the public for those entertainments. My website does generate business from those searching for a face painter in my area. I am also listed with Decideo, and have a free listing with Partypop which hasn't yielded anything so far. I do periodic mail-outs, targeting restaurants, schools, or venues where I think a painter would be popular. I have a postcard designed specifically for restaurants, and then a more generic one for everything else. I've gotten several calls after mail-outs, but from what I can tell, no actual jobs. Neutral

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by DJohns on Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:07 am

I agree with Perry regarding posting your prices! Thay way you only get serious inquiries. I don't want to waste time on the phone discussing price. When people read your website, they know before they call, that they can afford you and want to hire you.

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Shannon Fennell on Sat Oct 10, 2009 5:39 pm

I don't post my prices... I want the chance to negotiate since 95% of my work is corporate and often multiple date/multiple painter work.

I was down a bit in the Spring, but, the Fall is busier than it has ever been. Usually Sept/Oct is a deadzone for me but I am busy weekend AND weekdays with school demos and special events.

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Perry Noia on Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:08 pm

Whether or not you post your prices is a personal decision. If like me, you aren't really a great "closer" to borrow some sales terminology, you should probably post them to save yourself a lot of frustration though.

I know that I'm not the cheapest clown/face painter in the area and yet, I have people calling all the time.

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by moonprints on Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:00 pm

I find it so odd to think of Oct as a "slow time" for face painting!
Maybe it's just me, but because of Halloween, I wold think there would be a ton of business...?

I'm just barely jumping into this to help out a friend and have a good time mainly (it sure is addicting!) but I wouldn't be surprised if the economy is affecting everyone. Still, you get people like 'Perry Noia' who possibly get some bookings because of the economy...

I have found that calling around and trying to get the word out there that we are available seems to work best here on the western US... I've been calling every organization I can think of that has to do with kids or would go well with face painting. (zoo, aquarium, haunted houses, corn mazes, planetarium, costume shops, independent shopping centers, etc.) to see if they would be willing to book us for one or more events. So far we've had many people interested and we just need to figure out pricing and times that work for everyone involved. Then once we're at the events, we hand out cards like crazy and seem to get at least a few calls from that...

However, I believe the web would be a very good way to bring people in who are both searching for local face painters and as a "portfolio" for those people you call to contact, so they can see what you can do.
I've also toyed with the idea of selling things like "gift certificates" on sites like artfire.com or etsy.com as an option for someone who maybe wants to purchase a facepainting event for a niece or nephew or grandchild...

There are so many things you can do to break out, just try to think outside the box and don't loose your momentum! Smile

Manda

...look at me... talking like I know what I'm doing. I hope it works! (and I'll keep you all posted on how we're doing!)

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Shannon Fennell on Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:16 pm

Well... up here the weather turns and people aren't doing outdoor events in Sept/Oct, the parties haven't started for Christmas yet... and Halloween, in the past, wasn't a big thing for me businesswise. I also was travelling to the UK at the end of October in some years.

The last couple years though it has picked up, and this year is particularly busy

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by MandiIlene on Mon Nov 23, 2009 6:09 pm

Most of the time I notice in this year, people doing smaller parties and only booking one hour instead of two because they only have 10 kids not the whole classroom.

I probably get 75% of my business from referrals or personally meeting people at my PPF gigs, which is why I still do them, I figure its cheaper than advertising, and I get to personally meet them, talk to their kids, etc. With a party of 12 kids, most likely I am going to get at least 6 other parties. The only other painter is a clown and charges more per hour, and likes sticking to corporate gigs. I live in a more rural/retirement area and there is just not that much to do for kids here. Plus kids lik

I also find that my website does alot, I made sure to list it in google so when you look up face paint in my area it comes up first.

The other thing I started doing that helped alot in my small town area, is that I started blogging after I had been to an event at a place. To tell you how much of a retirement county I am in (The Villages, FL anyone?), we just got our first bounce house gym about 6 months ago. I blogged about going there painting and also about bringing my kids here. SOOOO many people around here were curious about the place they googled it and my blog came up with pics of Jungle themes face paint, and I got a lot of response and I still do, got a booking today from it.

I do post my prices, and most of the time when people call me, they have viewed my website, know what my work looks like, how much I am per hour and pretty much are seeing if I have the time available. I even post the address for the deposit and the amount and I don't have to read them everything over the phone for them to write down.

I also calculate my monthly income on my calendar in the corner and my year to date income and I made about 40% of my yearly income in October!!

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by LoneWolf on Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:16 am

I think I have more jobs this year, partly because of the economy. It is cheaper to hire me for three hours, than a entertainer (magician, clown or so) for a half hour.

Had my first Christmas event this Sunday! They started out early this year =)

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Re: If only the economy wasn't so bad

Post by Shannon Fennell on Tue Nov 24, 2009 3:41 pm

My first Christmas party was on Nov 14th!!

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