face painter copy cats

They are out there. Copy cats I like to call them. Painters that can not think on their "own" 2 feet. Local Websites have been reproduced extrememly & uncomfortably close to my own. How do you handle that? I find it somewhat flattering but more irritating than anything else. These are painters in my area (10 mile radious or less) and are after the same events that I do. They mimmic my designs (I can deal with that) my business banner, the similar name of their business, the similar look of their site, the places I have painted in the past, events that I have done, VERBIAGE on my website, my choice board, same furniture (My chair, table cloth etc) What is one to do? It is most irritating to me. I would love to send an email to call them on it but what do you say? I pride myself in being self taught self developed and all my own thoughts in the set up & atmosphere I create a elaborate face. I aligned with no one to learn and acquire what I have...it is all me. I have recently taken down my Events listing page because of the chasers, although I had it up for over 5 years and have a good number of loyal patrons. I would love to put it up again. Any feedback on this would be helpful on whether events listing shoudl be posted or not and how to handle mimmicing to an uncomfortable degree..

Wow! I am working all day, but will give this a thought.

-Metina

Post the event listing, esp those you have a contract for or exclusively. Stress how long you have been in business, how much parents & businesses like & depend on you and "altho local painters immitate me, be assured you are getting the original real thing here' or something like that.
Know the competition's weakness and point out your strong points.

He, he, I would also mention that "immitation is the MOST sincerest form of flattery but why settle for an immitation when you can get the real thing with me ; ) Your competition will get the point and change when they see it boldly on your site.

Ask if they want to work for you, since you already have the same stuff =D

Often Immitated! Never Duplicated!!

I am sorry to say, unless you have a copywrite or something similar, you can not stop them. I agree with adding the statements like: in business since ____ (they can't say they have been around as long as you), why settle for an immitation when you can get the real thing with me, etc. I also limit how much I put on the website. Prices, I post but the actual agreement is not available for download. I have a contact form instead so I can mail the details to them. I also only put two or three recent testimonials so they do not have my client list.

It is very frustrating.

Well said, Perry! It should be the third line on her homepage!

As someone who is just starting I receive my inspiration and business sense from other painters. I never thought it would offend anyone. But I don't go around exactly duplicating them either. I also believe in giving credit where credit is due. I never belittle myself in taking offense when others copy me, I look as you can try as much to be the original but odds are if you are copying me you don't have the drive or determination to truly endure in the long haul.

How awful. It reminds me of "McDowell's" from Coming to America. But you are not a billion-dollar international chain.

Can you get an email list to get the word out to loyal customers? Like how Metina sends out the step-by-step newsletter. You will have some control over who gets info of upcoming events, and the people who are legit will have access to know where to find you. A newsletter might be a really good idea. You could list upcoming events, talk about specials, or showcase services you provide. Maybe highlight work you've done. It's kind-of how I use my blog. Now that I think about it, my blog on google can be set up so only authorized users can look at it. You could have basic info on your web page, and former customers/potential legitimate clients can access your blog if they wish.

Sorry about the stream-of-consciousness response, but I hope you can work something out.

Thank you all for your awesome responses. I do state on my home page "first established" in 2003 & also state "7 years painting & counting" I will definately add "immitation is the MOST sincerest form of flattery but why settle for an immitation when you can get the real thing with me." I do not post prices b/c I base my rate on where the event is at & how many children, so people have to contact me first. I do not use a contract - never found a need to. I call a few days prior to confirm details etc etc.

*****Question for Rosenberg-Cox ---- I do have a copyright statement posted on my site b/c I employ alot, alot of pictures. If I do have the copy right posted - what does that entitle me to????? You mentioned if I do not have one I can not stop them..But I DO have a copyright. Please let me know what that exactly covers me for????

I would say instead of using so much energy and time fighting it, figure out a way to use it. I know this is easier said than done. For your "style" is it something that could be named and readily recognized. Can you use the words like "Original", "True", "Exclusive Process" along with the often copied ect..... I want to caution you about getting too negative or dramatic with it because none of your customers will understand why and will think you are crazy for going so overboard.

If you feel comfortable, post some of the competitor web addresses so we can review. You can also work with your web hosting company to ban certain IP addresses from viewing your site. When I suspect someone is doing something on the forum that is unsavory, I can block their IP address. Yes they can go to another location, but it sends a message that their behaviour won't be tolerated.

-Metina

Metina wrote:I would say instead of using so much energy and time fighting it, figure out a way to use it. I know this is easier said than done. For your "style" is it something that could be named and readily recognized. Can you use the words like "Original", "True", "Exclusive Process" along with the often copied ect..... I want to caution you about getting too negative or dramatic with it because none of your customers will understand why and will think you are crazy for going so overboard.

If you feel comfortable, post some of the competitor web addresses so we can review. You can also work with your web hosting company to ban certain IP addresses from viewing your site. When I suspect someone is doing something on the forum that is unsavory, I can block their IP address. Yes they can go to another location, but it sends a message that their behaviour won't be tolerated.

-Metina

I think you mean i can block certain IPs Haha

If the website is the same then you can get copyright infractions, that makes anyone change their website

~ Tilum

In regards to a copywrite: If you apply for and are granted a copywrite from the government, you could sue someone for "copying your work" as their own HOWEVER you could not sue them for having their version of your idea. I have a copywrite logo on my site but it is not enforcible as I have not actually applied for a copywrite. Example: My watered-down version of the disney princesses (no detail faces, just body and dress) in not a copywrite violation as it does not look enough like the actual disney princesses. Disney could not copywrite the dresses or positions a charature stands. Example: many of us have our versions of the spiderman face in mask form. Since Spiderman never wore a mask, it is our interpretation of the look, not a copy.

Here are the basic steps in appling for a copywrite:
Make sure what you want to copyright is your original work of art, literature, poetry, music, multi-media, computer software, etc. See the U.S. Copyright Office Web site for details.
Visit the U.S. Copyright Office Web site to determine the exact category of your work and for detailed information. (See Related Features for links.]
Either contact the U.S. Trademark Office to request an application form or download one from their Web site. (http://www.copyright.gov/forms/).
Complete the application.
Mail the completed application and a copy of the work to be copyrighted along with a $20 filing fee to the U.S. Copyright Office. ($20 fee per work).
The Copyright office will send you a certificate of registration in from 6 - 8 months.


Tips:
A copyright protects only the physical expression of a work. It does not protect facts, ideas, systems, or methods of operation.
Names, like company or organization names, names of performing groups, or names of people cannot be copyrighted.
Copyrights remain in effect for the lifetime of the certificate holder plus 70 years unless renewed.

Please note, I am not trying to discourage you from dealing with the copycats. I agree, it is one thing to get a few ideas from establish painters but it is something completely different when they copy everything! (Banner, website, advertising, etc). However, there comes that point where each of us has to deside where are energy is better spent.

Does the Better Business Bureau have a catagory for this?

I just looked at your site and can give you a few suggestions. PM if you are interested. Just a few thoughts.