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Post by maggie on Fri Mar 01, 2013 4:36 pm

Hi ladies, have not been here in a while, just wondering how do you calculate pricing for prenatal painting. I painted my 1st belly yesterday. I can't believe I waited this long to do it. It was such an awesome experience and after sharing pictures on a Facebook group API have had several inquires about belly painting.
Trying to figure out how to price the service.
Thank you!!

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Post by FUNtasy on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:06 pm

Hello Maggie.
I was trying to figure it out that too.
What I did was a research about face painters in the area or near me offering the same service. I had to go by this reference because I am still new and in training so I can not charge much more that they, so I will say just check around your area and work around that.
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Post by maggie on Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:27 pm

Thank you so much for yor input.
I did research some in my area and prices are not on their websites. I guess I am going to have to call them. Lol
Thanks again! Smile
Good luck with your business.
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Post by *redStar* on Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:02 pm

Pricing a belly painting can be tricky. You don't want to go too high but not too low either. If I find it I will link you to a previous discussion about it. I hope that will help you a bit.
http://www.facepaintforum.com/t9437-what-do-you-charge?highlight=what+do+you+charge+for+a+belly+painting
http://www.facepaintforum.com/t10555-how-do-you-charge-for-belly-painting
I realise it is not much to go on.
I have priced my belly painting at 125$, that includes a consultation- either in person or via phone or e-mail- one belly painting and 3-5 edited pictures.
Usually painting takes 1.5- 2 hours and then some time for the pictures. But I have also painted really quick designs before that only took me 30-45 min. I am still trying to figure out how to price those.
You also need to concider the area you live in. I know that some charge 200$ for a belly painting and people pay it and in other areas people just wouldn't spend that amount of money on it.
The way I see it, if I charge 125$ and the painting takes me 1.5 h plus 30min to take pictures, then the time I spend editing (lets say 45min) plus the time to prepare and time driving to and from their place. That is roughly 3 hours - which makes an hourly rate of 41$ and then you have gas and material costs on top of that. And that is low and conciderably less than what I would get for an hour of facepainting.

So you need to ask yourself
How long does it take you to paint a belly in average?
What do you usually charge for 1 hour of facepainting? (You don't want to loose too much money when you get booked for a belly painting instead of a facepainting party) Ps. I try to plan my belly paintings at times where I don't usually get booked for facepainting gigs (during the week/ evenings)
Do you offer to take and edit pictures? Or are you planning on offering a package deal working with a photographer?
What are the demographic characteristics of the area you live and work in?
Don't put your prices too low. Better a little higher and you can always offer a discount or introductory rate, but make sure people know what your regular rates are.
I hope it helps. I have done the research and if I find the paper where I wrote down all the prices I was able to find out. I will let you know.
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Post by *redStar* on Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:09 pm

Now that I wrote all this I think I will review my own pricing and maybe offer two different packages One for quick ones and where I don't personally take and edit the pictures and then one regular one where I paint a more detailed design and take and edit all the pictures myself (it does make a lot more work)
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Post by maggie on Thu Mar 14, 2013 6:56 pm

Thank you Laura for your detailed information. I have been shopping around and my prices are lower than most of the artists around here.

It makes sense to have 2 prices. I have only painted one belly so far and it took me two hours, going to figure out how to post, need photobucket right?
I am going to paint another one next Tuesday. I need to get a brochure ready to give to a contact I have in a midwifery place, I also belong to my town moms group. Smile

Thanks again laura!


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Post by *redStar* on Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:31 pm

My first belly painting took me a little over three hours and then another 45 min for pictures. I spent more time on detail than I would have needed to and then of course I am no photographer so figuring out what settings work best to get great pictures of the belly painting took quite some time as well.
I think it was Whitney Myers (wmeventservices here on the forum), that wrote somewhere that after moving she had to adjust her prices for belly painting and then offered simpler, quick designs to match the adjusted price. (maybe it was someone else, I don't remember exactly)

Don't sell yourself under value. I know that there are some in this area that offer facepainting for a lot less than I do and also belly paintings for less, but I think the time, quality and care I take with each painting is worth the money I charge.
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Post by maggie on Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:10 pm

Thank you Laura!

Trying to post a link to my Facebook page with the belly shot.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=446084568797053&set=a.378153465590164.87877.132782810127232&type=1&theater

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Post by artyfacesbyluz on Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:26 pm

Nice painting, I have charged 40 dollars per belly, that last less than 45 minutes, I have painted 3 paid bellies, not freebies anymore, since I rise the price to 50 haven't got any.
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Post by aussiemarie on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:07 pm

Great thread and clear advise. In my area, $40 is probably reasonable and might include a few photos with my camera and emailing them but no editing and no video magic! I price out "basic" about 20-30 minutes where I provide 3-4 suggested designs and "delux" which would take 45min. to an hour, and include a design on the cheek or hand of a family member who came along. I am at the point of doing a few "free" for developing a portfolio and as a kindness to a few mommies to be. Its a small town and I know them. I would love to see the promotional flyers others have made. May start another thread for this.
But Maggie- your art is outstanding!! So beautifully done. Just gorgeous! DOnt you love the huge surface area to put paint to?
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Post by *redStar* on Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:11 am

Maggi, that painting is amazing. How long did it take you to paint?
I would not go lower than 75$ for that kind of quality work. (and I think it's worth even more than that) Remember that you are not only charging for the time it takes, but also for the quality of your work, all the time you invested in training and practice, and the money spend on material and classes.
I did free ones and once where I just asked them to cover my material costs, so that I could practice, but at some point you need to charge a reasonable price, and not only reasonable to the client but also to you.
I will send you a link to two of mine, one that I would concider a quick one and the other was more compex and detailed.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=371825729540661&set=a.371824989540735.83275.371804156209485&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=371825649540669&set=a.371824989540735.83275.371804156209485&type=3&theater
The first one I can do in roughly 30 min. , the other one about 1.5- 2 hours.
As I said, I haven't figured out how to price the quick ones, but since I also take pictures and edit them (which again takes time) I won't be able to go lower than 50$ and to be honest, I would still be working at least 2 hours on them. 30 min painting (not including set up and take down time, or time getting there and home again), then taking pictures which can take up to 30 min as well and then the editing, which takes another hour or more (depending on what I do).
Time is only one factor that needs to go into the concideration. What about our training, material, gas, insurance, classes, administration work, these costs need to be concidered as well when deciding on rates or you end up covering costs out of your own pocket.
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Post by maggie on Fri Mar 15, 2013 7:05 am

Thank you so much!

Thank you Aussiemarie, I loooooooved painting the belly, it is such a beautiful experience and so soothing for both mom and I. At the end when I was "doing the dots" the baby was moving a lot lol
I love painting little kids faces but the feeling a belly painting gives you is amazing!

Thank you Laura! It took me 2 hours, it was my friend's belly so I didn't mind the work. I have my price set to $100 one flat rate. I took a picture with my iPhone but I do have a really good camera. I did a little shopping around found people were charging 150 flat rate, other from 175 and up. My prices are great compared with another painters in the area, I make enough money and I hate to be greedy. But agree, I can't sell myself short.

Love the cracking egg, so funny! And the octopus one is so gorgeous, love the colors!

Thanks again, you are so helpful!
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Post by *redStar* on Fri Mar 15, 2013 12:15 pm

It can be hard, not selling yourself short, especially when people turn you down because they think it is too much. But you are trying to get clients that see the value in your work and not bargain hunters (or at least that's what I aim for). And there is always the option of offering a limited time 25% off cupon (or however much you like).
I am glad you found my advice helpful. I received so much help here when I first started out, that I now like to give back when I can. Smile
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Post by AmazingMomentsLLC on Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:58 pm

My daughter and I have done face painting for almost 2 years and last fall started body painting. We just got our first belly painting lined up so we are excited to try it. We are pricing all of our services by the hour very similarly. Our thinking is, our time is valuable, and the more expertise needed, the more we charge. It kind of doesn't matter what the canvas is. Does that make sense? Everyone has to figure out the pricing for their area. We know artists who charge 2-3 times or half as much as we do depending on where they are located. When it comes to being competitive, we think we are better than average, skillwise, so we don't want to undercut othersn prices just to get a job. That will only hurt all of us who are doing this. We've offered an introductory rate of about 25% discount for the belly painting to build a portfolio, then we will charge our normal hourly rate.
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Post by vinnie on Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:07 pm

Ok, so I wanted to resurrect this discussion. I really want to provide this service, but I want this to be worth while. I plan to provide painting and photography, so I'm trying to set my prices based on my prices for parties as well as prental photography available out there. Prenatal photography can be expensive, anywhere from $400-$800. So, if I'm charging $180 for a 2-hr party and photographers are charging $125-180 for a photo session, plus a $300-500 minimum print requirement, wouldn't $400 for my package be reasonable? I know it sounds like a lot, but painting and being the photographer is a lot of work. I still feel like $400 isn't enough, especially since I'd be editing tons of pictures. I'm looking at anywhere between 2.5-4 hours of painting and the photo session, depending on location, as well as hours of photo editing.

What do you all think?
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