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Post by DebbieB on Wed Apr 15, 2015 12:45 pm

Setting the scene:
I am casually relaxing (still in my jammies) in front of my computer when my phone rings. I answer in what I am sure is my "why are you bothering me before noon??" voice and I am greeted by the most chipper morning voice that I have ever heard.
"Is this Debbie? My name is super duper happy Katie" ***groan*** WTH is she gonna try to sell me??
"I was given your card by so and so and after looking at your work on Facebook, I am really interested in having you come paint for me".
I have had so many flipping calls lately where they want information but none have actually booked, so her happy voice mixed with my feelings of dread just make me want to strangle her through the phone, but I managed to fake a happy tone anyway. Then she drops the bomb:
"I work for the stadium (our local minor league affiliate to the Atlanta Braves) and I would like to set up a meeting for you to come in and talk to Mike (the big honcho) and me about you face painting in our kid's zone".
At this point, I am genuinely on the edge of my chair and crossing my fingers that I don't say anything catastrophically stupid and I reply "Sure, that sounds great. When would be a good time to schedule the meeting since I am free this week" (and desperate for a gig, any gig. I will go paint inmates on death row wearing a bikini if someone will pay me).
We chat a little more about the time to meet and where I go when I arrive, etc. etc. and we hang up.
I push the cat out of my lap and jump up and do a little happy dance (to anyone watching me, they may have thought seizure, but whatever). Then I start to panic; I don't have a freaking clue as to what I am going to say when I get there. This is a tad bit out of my comfort zone and now I am worried that I am going to ask for too much pay and not get it or ask for too little and shoot my own toes off. She said we would discuss payment during the meeting, but they would like it to be a situation where I accept the tokens that the kids buy in the kid's zone and they could do a flat rate for me but we can brainstorm during the meeting. Maybe I am over thinking here, but I want this sooooooo bad. Would it be completely insane to suggest we do a lower than my normal rate for a couple of weeks to get a feel of how popular/unpopular this will be and then raise me up to my normal fee or should I stay firm on my hourly rate and take a chance that they don't want to pay it???



To anyone who read my saga about the evil gnome SIL:
I know for a fact that she has made numerous attempts to get into this stadium with no luck, so this is going to be a s**t storm of epic proportions if I actually do get this gig. I made no attempt at getting it, but it won't be seen that way. If I completely stop posting on this forum or Facebook, it will be because she has murderized me and I am now fertilizer in her garden via the woodchipper. Evil or Very Mad  If that happens, just know I love and will miss all of you.  Sad  Sad  Sad


***** UPDATE ***** Happy Katie just called to ask if we can push the meeting until Tuesday since she was just told of a promotional something or other that she has to attend. Blah, now I get to stress for another 5 days.


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Post by PixiePaintrix on Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:12 pm

WEEE!!!! so exciting!!!
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Post by fesspenter on Wed Apr 15, 2015 5:12 pm

Good for you!
Knock 'em out of the ballpark!!!
xoxo
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Post by Forest-Fairy on Wed Apr 15, 2015 7:07 pm

So exciting!

This is what I would do if it were me.

Bring in your portfolio of designs of course. (I have all my good stuff in a book, with 9 pocket pages like baseball cards).

Bring printed photos of your setup and table.

A printed list of your sanitation methods
-use hand sani between models
-brush rise routine in detail
-kit cleaning routine in detail 
etc

Have something already painted on your arm. I like to rub my hand back and forth (not super hard) to show people it stays on even if you touch it.

Bring in some of your paint to show them your speed! I would bring in white and dark purple, my silly farm petal brush, and a #3 gold grip. Do some epic fast petals on the arm, detail it with dots and teardrops, and they them awe at the 30 second flowers. 

Also bring in some soapy water and a paper towel to show how easily it washes off.

Sell yourself as being the best!

Also memorize all the point in this article
http://www.examiner.com/article/why-you-should-consider-a-professional-face-painter

Good luck!
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Post by melissah1982 on Wed Apr 15, 2015 8:43 pm

As opposed to an addition of a 'like' button...can we get a 'Forest Fairy is awesome' button? Cause...you are, lol you always have the best information.

Good luck DebbieB! That is exciting news. I wouldn't lower your rates. They are a large company that can afford you, I am sure. However, if you REALLY want the job, don't be opposed to seeking a price that is reasonable for all involved. Would this be a one time event or a steady workflow?

Now I have to go find out about this evil gnome saga, lol
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Post by DebbieB on Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:24 pm

I would take all of that stuff, but based on the conversation, they have already seen it. She said they looked over my FB and website and they really like what they see, so I feel like this meeting is all about making it rain. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy If this were me reaching out to try to get a gig, I would so definitely do all of that. However, they reached out to me after seeing my stuff so I feel pretty good about this meeting being about money. What a Face What a Face What a Face Which is the part that has me worried since I haven't negotiated anything like this before.

She didn't really specify anything about when/what days she wants me to be there, she just said "interested in having you paint in our kid's zone". Since there are 64 home games left, plus special events and whatnot, I am greedily hoping she wants me there for all of it, hence my willingness to drop my price a little. If it is only a day or two here and there, I probably won't be as quick to take less.

I have been in touch with Mark at Faketoos and he can custom make me a glitter stencil for the logo, so I think that would be of interest to them and give them some confidence in that I want this gig enough to offer them something unique to their stadium.

I wish I knew where I could get a face painting stencil custom made, does anyone here know???

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Post by Forest-Fairy on Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:12 pm

DebbieB wrote:
I wish I knew where I could get a face painting stencil custom made, does anyone here know???


Yes, yes I do. I make them! lol
https://www.etsy.com/ca/shop/LookingGlassStencils

pretty much anything really, just specify the size. Very Happy
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Post by DebbieB on Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:22 pm

OMG!!!!! I am seriously smiling ear to ear over here. cheers cheers cheers cheers

Is shipping reasonable from Canada? I assume it's just gonna be in a regular envelope??

Anyway, what would be the best way to send you a couple of pics of the logos so we can figure out what is the best option??
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Post by DebbieB on Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:45 pm

These links are for Melissah1982. You have to read the first to understand the second:

http://www.facepaintforum.com/t15272-did-i-do-something-wrong

http://www.facepaintforum.com/t15639-wow-just-wow
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Post by Forest-Fairy on Wed Apr 15, 2015 11:29 pm

You can send me a message on Etsy and attach the images. I'll have a look at them. I assume you want a logo that can easily fit on a cheek, so I can just make it a size that will work.

Yeah for something like a BAM size or smaller shipping is $2 CAD, the stamp is like $1.20, the rest pays for envelopes, card stock (to make it more rigid) etc, and me having to get off the couch an walk to the mail box. Razz
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Post by DebbieB on Thu Apr 16, 2015 12:16 am

Ok. I will do that tomorrow.

Thanks Bunches
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Post by eviedejesus on Thu Apr 16, 2015 3:08 am

That is awesome and even though they like your work and called you - the “selling” yourself (that Forest-Fairy suggested) is not to make them like you, but to make them feel that they “need” you because you are the best. The best is worth paying for.

I too will have to read up on the SIL drama, but sounds like juicy already. As far as price....if you know you are on the high end, and they want to pay less, negotiate. I painted for a college here in town and they paid up front for the whole season. Don’t be afraid to haggle for perks....they will respect you for knowing your worth and keep in mind how many kids you will be painting and that it might be lots of back-breaking hours....so don’t be too quick to lower your rate. You’ll probably be painting WAY more kids per hour than you would at a party, so they will be getting their money’s worth. Putting off the meeting for 5 days is a blessing in disguise because you can practice some new team/baseball related designs. Hope it turns out great - if you have your rates listed on your website, stick to them because that means she saw them before calling you.
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Post by melissah1982 on Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:44 am

Thanks for the links! I will check them when I get home from work.

I really hope this works out for you. Think of the exposure! I wonder if you should still bring the small kit just in case they want an example. I know they saw the website...but seeing you do your magic up close might seal the deal.

And as for pricing, that is what I was thinking too. If it was for one or two gigs, it might be best sticking with your prices. If it was for the rest of the season, that's a 'steady' income so lowering the price wouldn't be horrible. Perhaps come up with some ideas on pricing that work for you so if they ask, you have a few solutions prepared? Either way, good luck!
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Post by Alina0210 on Thu Apr 16, 2015 11:20 am

What Forest Fairy said with the portfolio makes you look professional and you will come across like a real business not a 'hobby' like what a lot of people think.
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Post by melissah1982 on Thu Apr 16, 2015 6:50 pm

Ok Debbie, finally read both posts.  I do remember skimming through them before but it's always nice rereading. Wow, what a crazy woman. It is such a shame that someone in your family has to be that possessive. I hope eventually everything works out between you two. But until then....I hope you get this gig just to tick off your SIL, lol!
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Post by DebbieB on Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:50 pm

Oh, I am going to take a few things with me and such so that I hope to appear professional, when in reality, I am gonna feel so nervous. I guess because it is something I have thought about pursuing, but I didn't for the very reason of what's about to come. It is going to get ugly, I can feel it in my bones, especially when it comes out that they approached me after her failed attempts. What a Face What a Face What a Face

I will admit, spite and revenge are almost as much a motivator of me wanting to continue to face paint as the fact that I actually love it. It's just sad that it will always result in a backlash against me rather than any form of support and it's hard to be excited about something that you know is going to make you a target of family drama. Sad Sad Sad Sad
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Post by DebbieB on Wed Apr 22, 2015 1:54 pm

UPDATE:::::::


I had the meeting yesterday with happy Katie and another guy with the stadium. We tossed around different ideas on everything from what I would offer and how much everything would cost. They both told me everything sounds good and from their perspectives, it looks like a good plan. Now it's a waiting game as they pitch it all to the head honcho for approval and send my custom stencil (THANKS FOREST FAIRY) to the head office for approval. Apparently, it has to be a dead on accurate copy of the logo for it to get corporate approval, but they believe it should get the approval. I just hate waiting, blah. affraid affraid affraid affraid affraid
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Post by amylady222 on Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:28 pm

OOHH!! So excited for you!
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Post by Corrinrr on Wed Apr 22, 2015 7:34 pm

I was waiting for an update (coming out of lurking) Good luck!!! I'm glad it went well
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Post by DebbieB on Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:53 pm

So, I get a call today saying that the big boss is wanting to make this happen, YAY!!!!!!!!

First, they are taking me up on the offer of a "trial run" of sorts this weekend (Yes, TOMORROW and Saturday), so this is not giving me time to properly prepare, but I'll wing it. I told him this is going to be a thrown together menu with none of the stencils that we discussed since I won't have time to get them, but they haven't been approved yet, so no biggie there. Just gonna throw a quick clip art board together, I guess........ I am so wanting this to work, so cross your brushes for me. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Post by melissah1982 on Thu Apr 23, 2015 9:07 pm

Wow! That's crazy! So last minute but that's showbiz, lol. Good luck and I hope you have the best weather and all your supplies work the way you want them too.
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Post by fesspenter on Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:36 pm

I am SO happy for you...
I love it when things work out so well.

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Post by PixiePaintrix on Fri Apr 24, 2015 11:29 am

So excited for you. Can't wait to hear the full story on Monday!
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Post by rthling on Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:09 pm

YAY!!!!
Can't wait to hear how it went!
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Post by Alina0210 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:12 am

Any more updates??
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