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Post by LittleMonsters on Mon Apr 27, 2015 9:59 pm

Anyone else continually nitpick your work?  I can't help but do it ALL THE TIME!  I know I'm a perfectionist... I'm frequently reminded of this by others on a daily basis, lol...  certainly makes small insignificant jobs long and tedious...

But I can't help when looking at pictures of my work and noticing how this was slightly off centre, or that dot wasn't as nice a circle as it could have been, or that tear drop wasn't teary and dropy enough...

I want my work to be good... and people are paying good money for quality work - and I know other people don't see things the way I do and a lot of people who pay for painting are like, "oh look, colors!  Lines!  WOW!"  But it's really hard to do everything right when you're on such a time crunch >_<
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Post by fesspenter on Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:19 pm

We are our own worst critics, LittleMonsters.
I notice that there is a cycle that I keep going through where
I look at my artwork,
and I am so happy,
and then I am hating it
and picking on it,
and then I start to think about how to improve,
I practice
practice
practice
and then I get better
and then I am so happy
and the cycle begins anew.
If I could give myself any helpful, constructive information to my younger self, it would have been to not pick on myself. Instead of noticing what is wrong about my work, I should have noticed what could I have done to make my work better, stronger.
Even when you DO have time, we still make mistakes. And it is okay.
We create a living art.
It always looks better in person, than it does in photographs.
Be kind to yourself, LittleMonsters.
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by LittleMonsters on Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:25 pm

fesspenter wrote:It always looks better in person, than it does in photographs.

Oh wise fesspenter ^_^  This definitely is true - I like when people get me to take pictures as well as face paint at a party so that I can see what worked and what didn't work in my designs... so I know what needs to be improved upon, what to keep and what to stop doing.  But still... pick, pick, pick Razz
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by jlirie on Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:32 pm

i think it's the nature of creative types to be perfectionist. you want to do the best you can, which keeps you motivated to improve.

turn it around the other way - if you didn't want your work to be really good, you'd be a slacker. now that would be a disappointment Smile
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Post by Denise Cold on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:26 am

Boy...is this true. I just had a party where the quality varied from person to person! Sometimes they have a great face or it's a design you really want to do...or I have a problem with being sub consciously passive-aggressive if someone starts directing me on how to do the design and it effects my work. This is one of the reasons I don't like "on the fly" designs though either. I like knowing the design so I can work on the mechanics of it over and over. Seeing said "great design" that I've been working on for months a parent will tell a child I can do anything they want...and then they get a police car on their cheek that looks like a fifth grader painted it. Arrgggh. I HATE that.

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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by jlirie on Tue Apr 28, 2015 12:56 am

denise, i have the same experience, some of my designs come out great, others not so much. i find it easier to do designs that are more freeform, ie, fluid strokes and lines, blending and shading - butterflies, certain princess crowns, dinos/lizards.

straight lines are almost always my downfall..
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by LittleMonsters on Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:01 am

Lol, Denise!  It is rough when you get one of those "oh crap" requests, haha.  All of my paintings so far have been on the fly and varied as much as possible between requests of the same type of painting.

My last birthday party I only had to paint 8 faces and it seems I was very slow as the party before I had painted 21 faces and there was only 1 hour in the difference between parties.  The children weren't all lined up and ready to go between faces on the last one though so that did make a difference.

I bought a mannequin head to practice on so I can time myself but the darn thing is stained all to hell from the first use, hah... thinking of painting the whole thing black so it's possibly at least stained evenly -_-
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by jlirie on Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:15 am

maybe get a face shell to put over it? it's just the front of the face, like a mask. cheaper than the whole head, and can be replaced when it gets too stained or worn.

this reminded me i intended to get one myself, so ordered this today - http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002ZNJIHG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1430272043&sr=8-2&keywords=makeup+face


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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by Forest-Fairy on Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:38 am

I nit pick my work all the time. Every little thing. *sigh*

Also Denise I totally feel you. While i like painting new things, when some kid asks for something I know i'm bad at painting, I hate it. -.-

I hate painting cars SO much.
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by Denise Cold on Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:12 am

Yeah, definitely making some car stencils...oh, and trains. Not doing that again... Smile

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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by Forest-Fairy on Tue Apr 28, 2015 1:06 pm

A kid on Sunday asked Aryn to paint his face like the front a a steam locomotive. Despite Aryn trying to get him to pick something else this kid could not be swayed.

It turned out 'ok', the kid liked it. Aryn hated it.
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by barbb919 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:59 am

I do the same thing after taking photos .
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by Alina0210 on Wed Apr 29, 2015 6:11 am

I pick too, but doesn't help that my husband still doesn't understand how I can facepainting when he think i can't draw... Ummm I can draw I just never get a chance to do it with the 3 kids around...
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by eviedejesus on Wed Apr 29, 2015 9:56 pm

Denise - I feel the same exact way and will always correct the parent when they say “she can paint whatever you want”. This is why I insist on working off a design menu. I just hate it when I choke. I try to add new designs to my board so that I’m not just doing the same stuff, but when you know that the “same stuff” is what comes out great because you’ve had a chance to perfect it....you find comfort in it. When I do pay-per-face, I have a “surprise me” option at the cheapest price and always tell myself which designs I will try out if I have the chance. Very few people make the “surprise me” choice and when they do.....I get excited, then .....I choke!!! UGH! so frustrating, but glad I am not the only one.

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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by LittleMonsters on Wed Apr 29, 2015 10:32 pm

Sometimes when I'm given something that I can't imagine working I'll say, "that's a really good idea, but I don't think it's going to turn out the way you think it will" - like when one little girl asked me to paint her face to look like Elsa by painting it all white... if they're adamant about it I'll certainly give it a go though >_<
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Post by jlirie on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:27 pm

eviedejesus wrote:Very few people make the “surprise me” choice and when they do.....I get excited, then .....I choke!!!

too funny Very Happy
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Post by jlirie on Wed Apr 29, 2015 11:28 pm

LittleMonsters wrote:Sometimes when I'm given something that I can't imagine working I'll say, "that's a really good idea, but I don't think it's going to turn out the way you think it will" - like when one little girl asked me to paint her face to look like Elsa by painting it all white... if they're adamant about it I'll certainly give it a go though >_<

lol!
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Post by LittleMonsters on Thu Apr 30, 2015 12:36 am

^ Ok, just to be clear, that's how she imagined I'd paint her to look like Elsa... I didn't actually do that, lol... this is when we have a little conversation on what's going to work better Razz
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Post by jlirie on Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:32 am

i figured you didn't, lol. i was thinking about a kid i painted as a white tiger face recently, and imagining all that white real estate as elsa's skin color Shocked
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Post by Forest-Fairy on Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:35 am

I've had the same conversation with children about things like this. The best part is when they try to tell you how to do it, as if it's so simple even they could do it. "Well you could just do it like this, and it will work." *sigh* 

Years ago, i just gave in and did what was asked the best I could, and every time I got "You did it wrong!" "it's not supposed to look like this!" and even crying. I don't do it any more, I KNOW i'm right, I know they don't understand, and i get them to pick something else.

I've even had kids ask for things i've never seen before like cartoon chracters and such, and when i ask for a picture on moms phone or something, they instead try to describe it in the most vague terms, "well, it's like blue, and round, and kinda like some yellow on it."
Oh yeah... that gives me a total clear picture of what it's supposed to look like. *face palm*
Kid, I can't paint something if i don't know what it looks like!

Just this last weekend at a farmers market I had some kids in line ask me if i could paint things from mine craft. I said yes, i can. So they waited in line. When it was their turn they asked me to paint them FULL FACE like very specific character skins of some famous youtube minecraft players.
See there is the default 'skin' called 'Steve' that you start with, but you can customize it to look how ever you want.

It it could look like anything! And these kids (like 9 to 11 years old) expected me to know which popular mine craft player they were talking about, AND paint it as a full face. Of course when their mom tried to look it up they couldn't find it. And i spent a while trying to tell them, I can't paint it if i don't know what it looks like, while they tried to describe it to me in vain. I finally got them to pick something else.

Some kids like this I meet are SO picky, and they think it's SO easy, they even ask if they can use my brushes and paints and paint it themselves. Heck no!
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

Post by Tineke on Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:22 am

Ha, I used to have this golden rule, if you show me a image of it, I can paint it... Back before smartphones, this was a lifesaver, because of course they didn't have a picture at hand Very Happy
Nowadays, not so much No
I just learned to say 'no', or embed the stupid character they want into a much larger pretty design of my choice (you see, there behind that cloud? that's where your care bear is! Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy )
There's a huge kids entertainment company in my country that makes all the tv-shows, theatre shows, theme parks, etc around characters that are SO POPULAR, and naturally kids want to be that thing...
Some examples of those characters:



So those designs always suck, because kids expect you to make it exactly like on their t-shirt/cartoon/socks/....


Back on the topic though:
I paint thing, am amazed at how it turned out, feel really happy about it, take a pic with my phone, and afterwards start seeing all my flaws Sad
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Re: Nitpicking Your Work...

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Post by eviedejesus on Sat May 02, 2015 2:10 am

If you google Ira Glass you can hear the entire speech he gave about it but that poster helped me understand why I am almost always dissappointed with my work.
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Post by jlirie on Sat May 02, 2015 12:02 pm

i love that saying, describes it perfectly
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