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Post by Perry Noia on Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:43 pm

Just had my first real skin reaction situation... it wasn't bad, it was a friend's child. I had forgotten until after the fact that she had mentioned at one point that he is allergic to foods with red colouring in them. So, after I heard that he had broken out in hives from the paints it occurred to me that was probably what it was. I'm not surprised that they would use food dyes for the face paints since they would be the safest colours to use, but it's something to be aware of and thought I should share that. A tidbit of knowledge to keep rattling around in your brain in case you ever came across a child who had a reaction, ask if they are allergic to any food dyes/colours.

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Post by Monster Princess Art on Thu Feb 18, 2010 7:40 pm

ohhh good one

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Post by Megan in slc on Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:46 am

This is interesting that you posted this. I just had my first reaction on myself. I was trying a metallic purple from wolf on my arm and when I washed it off it was red and hot. We are trying to decide if it was from just the paint or if happened because I used a baby wipe to take most of the paint off before I washed it . . . .

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Post by Michelle Heffner on Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:40 am

Perry Noia wrote: I'm not surprised that they would use food dyes for the face paints since they would be the safest colours to use, but it's something to be aware of and thought I should share that. A tidbit of knowledge to keep rattling around in your brain in case you ever came across a child who had a reaction, ask if they are allergic to any food dyes/colours.

http://www.fda.gov/ForIndustry/ColorAdditives/ColorAdditiveInventories/ucm115641.htm

This link talks about FDA appoved colors for use in cometics. Scroll down to the Pink Highlighted areas.

You'll notice it gets confusing about what can't be used on the lips and what can't be used on the eyes etc. But basically you can see that there are only so many colorants that are approved for cosmetic use and some of them cross-over between food colorants and cosmetics colorants (color is color).

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Post by Wildcatfin on Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:18 pm

TBH has been a LOT recently about reactions in the industry worldwide, and i think all but 1 were due to babywipes. Even had a lot who cleaned their paints with babywipes complaining about some reaction that made their paints stink like sulphur!
Is why i try to stick to damp facecloths - reuseable and less chance of reaction...

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Post by Perry Noia on Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:14 pm

while I often use baby wipes on my hands and occasionally on a messy child's face... in this particular case, I know it was the colouring that did it. I spoke with his mother and they already knew he had an allergy to red and blue food colours. He had medication with him because they run into reactions with him a lot, so it wasn't serious and he washed it off himself as soon as he felt it itching. I told his mother that at least now he knows that if he'd like to get his face painted again, he knows to ask for different colours. I only did a pirate face on him with black and red... had he asked for a different coloured bandana than red, we might not even have known that he would have a reaction.

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Post by Bryony on Sat Apr 09, 2011 1:29 am

I have just had my first child and adult react to the paint I use - it was the Black Iris split cake from TAG and it was only the dark purple colour in it. They both had a little butterfly and when washed off, the skin was red where the purple was. The child doesn't suffer from sensitive skin but the adult does. I used a baby wipe on the child but not on the adult.

This is all very helpful - thank you
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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky on Sat Apr 09, 2011 3:14 am

yeah, I've found that normal baby wipe really irritate my skin, especailly on my face. Instead, I use the exfoliating moistureizing wipes made by walmart.... these:

http://www.viewpoints.com/Equate-Exfoliating-Facial-Cleansing-Towelettes-review-b91415?just_posted=true&partner_product_page_url=#

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Post by facesbybelle on Sat Apr 09, 2011 12:42 pm

I was practicing painting the red pixar car on my arm and kept cleaning the area, over and over with baby wipes. It's just so convenient instead of having to constantly go to the sink. My arm became irritated and was bright red. I must say I was quite rough cleaning the area because I was so upset with my painting, I don't get to practice often so when I do, I just go for hours!
I usually use baby wipes that are for sensitive skin, but I'm going to give the Equate exfoliating wipes a try. Thanks for the tip Punky.

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Post by tricia on Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:00 pm

I just noticed my paradise paints say on the box not to use red, orange or yellow near the eyes, and not to use blue or green on the lips. I've seen lots of designs using those colors in those areas, and I had never noticed that warning before. Now I'm concerned...

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Post by Kate318 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:08 pm

I have a friend who is highly allergic to red dye. This is any red dye containing a certain PEG number. I can't remember the number I think it's PEG-50 or PEG-75. This ingredient (I'm not a chemist so bare with me) is found in food coloring, paints, clothing dye, and dyes used medical testing like MRIs. But different products that use red dye don't all contain the same PEG ingredients. So there may be reds that his isn't allergic to as long as they don't contain that certain PEG #. (Did you get all that?) The allergy my friend has is so severe he will swell up to a point where his wind pipe will close if and he will most certainly need to go to the hospital.

Anyway, I have snazaroo paints and on the back lable it does show PEG ingredients. I was worried about this because unfortunately you may not know you have this allergy until its too late. Not all red dyes or food coloring use the same PEG # so you might have a child who has gone for a long time with out ever encountering the PEG # they are allergic to. If its any help I have a sign on my picture board that does say to "tell me if you child is allergic to anything". It hasn't come up. I am thinking in the future of asking any parent with a child who wants the "red" spiderman or darker purples if they have allergies to red dye or any allergy for that matter.

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Post by Kate318 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:18 pm

Tricia - I am new to facepainting and when I got a small pallet of snazaroo from my local craft store in October last year I didn't notice any warning. Then when I got the large single cakes there were warnings on the back of each not to use it on certain areas of the face. I am going to try to make a note for myself and keep it by my paints so I don't use any of these things in the wrong place. But yes I too see those colors on all areas of the face and I have used the colors on my eyes and lip areas not really caring. But after reading this I'm going to follow the recomendations for others.

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Post by Perry Noia on Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:45 pm

The only one I really worry about is putting red near the eyes.. That's the one that seems to be for all brands. I believe that Snazaroo was tested safe even if the kids started chewing on a cake of it (except for the possible choking hazard) so I wouldn't worry about particular colours near their mouth with snaz.

You can usually adjust the design slightly to keep the red off the eyes or just to the outer corners of the eyes so it is less likely to go in.

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Post by barbb919 on Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:52 pm

so much going on these past months about problems with the paints.
i wish some one would get to the bottome of this..the factories need to know these problems or stop making the colors that are causing the problems.

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Post by Noella on Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:09 pm

I don't think it is anything new with the paints or product formula - I think it relates to the general increase in allergies. The people who are allergic would be allergic to the item regardless - same types of ingredients are in the paint that are in food and other cosmetics. It's just an unusual situation for someone to get painted (except face painters kids).

http://www.cdc.gov/media/pressrel/2008/r081022.htm

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