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Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:32 pm

I tried Wolfe black and hated it because it took 3 days to get it off my face, and I only used it for tiger marks. When I tried to get it off it stained my WHOLE face; not just where the markings off. I used soap, lotion, and even olive oil and couldn't get it off. So I don't use it.

Is Dfx black the same way? I use paradise now, but it gets muddy too easily and was thinking of trying dfx.
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Post by SuzySparkles on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:41 pm

I have never had wolfe black stain my face but dfx is sort of the same...
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:43 pm

Lol. Ok, think I will stick to paradise then
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Metina on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:51 pm

You should be fine if you use it over another color as in your avatar, but I have used both Wolfe and DFX black on myself and children without staining. It takes a little more effort, but it came off us.

If you have REALLY dry skin it will absorb more readily. Try putting on lotion first as a base???


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Re: Dfx black question

Post by modernmagik on Wed Mar 03, 2010 6:51 pm

what do you mean about your Paradise black getting "muddy"?

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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:25 pm

When I wear Wolfe around my eyes I end up with eyeliner for a couple of weeks.

I always remove with baby wipes first, then wash... and to start I just lay down the wipe and press to life off the paint rather than smear it... then sort of "scoop" with the wipes instead of smearing ... IYKWIM?

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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:06 pm

I'm not so much worried about myself getting it off as some little kid, or rather their parent being upset with me.
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Muddy...

Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:07 pm

modernmagik wrote:what do you mean about your Paradise black getting "muddy"?

the vast majority of my designs use black marks, mainly because it's easier for me to do black teardrops than white ones. I don't know why... but they ALWAYS turn out better when I use the black. But... I use it so much that it gets overly wet. I suppose I could just bring two of them... but I probably won't remember.
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Yes, but that's okay for you.

Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:08 pm

Shannon Fennell wrote:When I wear Wolfe around my eyes I end up with eyeliner for a couple of weeks.

I always remove with baby wipes first, then wash... and to start I just lay down the wipe and press to life off the paint rather than smear it... then sort of "scoop" with the wipes instead of smearing ... IYKWIM?

You are a woman. I do that and I have some explaining to do, lol.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:03 pm

Why? Tell 'em you're going Goth!! LOL

I actually do not use Wolfe or DFX black in my kit at all - never use it on kids for exactly that reason!

I use Snaz for my black line work and Kryolan for bases. And if I need something a little more sharp (or the heat is causing problems with the Snaz & Kryolan) I use Liquid black Fardel which I always have with me.

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Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:08 pm

really? snaz for line work? I would think that wouldn't show too well. I'll have to give it a try. I like the paradise, probably because that is what I was taught with. Plus, it doesn't melt like Snaz does, and that is always a problem.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Guest on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:21 pm



These are both ONLY Snaz.

You have to get the consistency right but I use Snaz all the time when working on kids. I add water to my cake so I have a gooey spot and just add water as needed to keep it workable. AND your base has to be dry too, before doing detail on top like on the Dog.

All the designs in my book were done ONLY using Snaz... these are two from the book.

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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:52 pm

wow... I had no idea snaz worked that well. thanks
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by LoneWolf on Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:16 am

It does stay on the skin better than other brands, but I haven't got any complains, only people telling me they was happy the design was looking good longer than other facepaintings they have had.
I give a card saying how to remove it best. It also include my contact info ;-)
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by cbfaceart on Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:20 pm

the black does stain but make sure to moisturize ive been using wolfe forever and never had a complaint the one that has stained me for a WEEK is paradise teal i believe omg
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Perry Noia on Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:57 pm

I don't like paradise because the smell makes me nauseous.. I only use snaz right now, but it can be tricky to get the black as opaque as you'd like sometimes... it takes a while to "warm up" to the right consistency. I'm just as afraid of wolfe/dfx as you are.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:21 pm

Funny how one experience can tell you all you need to know.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Ashley Pickin on Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:07 pm

The Wolfe black has never stained me, and I use it all of the time.

I use shampoo to take it off..

Just rub around the shampoo over the face paint design(no water!) and once it's all good and covered, I use a warm wet washcloth to wipe it all off. Easy as that. Never had a problem with staining.. except for maybe the paradise yellow.

Everyone is different, but I've never had a parent complain (and I paint the same kids every week at my restaurant.. and they get Wolfe black on them every week!)

I put removal instructions on the back of my cards and give everyone one, I also put directions for removal on my website.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:15 pm

I like being able to tell them that the paint comes off with a diaper wipe.
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Post by Ashley Pickin on Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:41 pm

well, Wolfe will come off with Wet Ones baby wipes.. but everyone has kid's shampoo(if they have a kid..)

My card states to use "tear free shampoo."

works for me.

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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Clayton on Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:45 pm

Glad it comes off easy for you. Wish I could say the same for me
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by LoneWolf on Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:50 am

I would not recommend baby wipes for use in the face. A lot have perfume and are to harsh for use on the skin there.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Guest on Fri Mar 05, 2010 12:27 pm

I've tried baby shampoo it did NOT work for me. Made a big smeary mess on me and my shower!!

For me, personally, taking it off with unscented sensitive wipes first, then soap and water works (except for around the lashes!)

This whole issue of removal is why I don't use Wolfe or DFX black or darker colours in my working kit.

I have Wolfe white, red and the UV colours, that's it. The rest is Snaz, Kryolan, Grimas, Fardel and Funky Foxes... and out of them the most that happens in lingering yellow/green/blues!!

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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Lady Jayde on Sun Mar 14, 2010 12:25 am

I don't use Wolfe black at all. I do use DFX, but only on myself or other adults. I use primarily Snaz and Paradise on the kids I paint...my reasoning...they've never stained me, my kids nor my practice head, so I consider that to be my clinical trials, lol. I love the way DFX looks, but if you follow Shannon's method (like I do) Snaz can go on with the same vibrancy of color.
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Re: Dfx black question

Post by Winger1200 on Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:59 am

Perry Noia wrote:I only use snaz right now, but it can be tricky to get the black as opaque as you'd like sometimes... it takes a while to "warm up" to the right consistency. I'm just as afraid of wolfe/dfx as you are.

I was terrified of the wolfe/dfx paints, too and have been using Snaz exclusively since I started, but like Perry, I'm so dissapointed that I really have to work the Snaz black to get really dark lines, and that takes up valuable gig time in the long run.

When Metina came to my Woodbridge Jam last Sunday, I tried out the DFX, and I'm hooked! It went on SO smooth, with very little effort and teency fine lines on my peacock feather eye came out perfect every time!

Yup, I got black & white, delighted with the results! The black doesnt have to be worked with and goes on really dark & smooth, making designs go on SO much faster. The white goes on opaque and bright, even the regulars at my resturant gig noticed!

The neon mini really was a hit but I'm going to have to reorder sooner than I thought as it doesn't last like the snaz. Well worth it, tho ; )

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