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I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Michelle Heffner on Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:06 am

I use mostly Snaz/Kryolan for base colors in my kit, but I think I am going to switch to Wolfe/DFX.

Thoughts?

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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Painted Dragon on Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:37 am

I've heard that the white will crack as a base.
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by LoneWolf on Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:45 am

I have had no problem with that in the face and I use it for skulls all the time. Try ad a bit of glycerine to the water your activate the paint with if it happen.
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Michelle Heffner on Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:40 pm

LoneWolf wrote:I have had no problem with that in the face and I use it for skulls all the time. Try ad a bit of glycerine to the water your activate the paint with if it happen.

Thanks Lone Wolf Smile

I'm so used to the creamier paints that I don't really know how DFX or Wolfe will wear for longer periods of time.

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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by SuzySparkles on Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:12 pm

I have never had a cracking problem Smile I use it for bases just because it gives more of a wow factor with the awesome bright colors, plus it is a lot more smudge proof than the other paints...
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Post by Metina on Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:32 pm

It will last for A LONG time, but will start to pull on the face as it tightening and start itching and will crack. I added the glycerine and it didn't help much. But I only experienced this with the white and no other colors.

I have just added Snaz white back to my kit for the bases. I find that I dab just a bit of the DFX white along with mostly Snaz and it still pops but doesn't crack.

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Post by Painted Dragon on Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:35 pm

I wonder how a half snaz half fx would look?
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by LoneWolf on Wed Apr 14, 2010 3:40 pm

Metina is it Wolfe or DFX you use?
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Post by Metina on Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:05 pm

DFX of course. Why, what do you know?

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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by LoneWolf on Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:34 pm

I have just heard more complains about Wolfe than DFX (but most are on the Snaz forum and DFX are not so used in USA - so not so big a competitor.. - so don't know if that is why).
Personally I have only have problems with the Wolfe (and DFX) white cracking when applied over bigger parts of the body. Strange why you have problems with it. Thought the weather in Washington was something like in DK. Maybe it is the fluorinated water you have? Have you tried bottled water? Can't really think of another reason.
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by JBax on Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:03 pm

Using DFX as a base is great, but you have to adjust your tactic ever so slightly. With Snaz, I can go back over a dried spot and it will still blend. Not as much with DFX, which is much easier to blend when still wet.
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Post by jenjenhana on Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:30 pm

Word! If you want to blend colors, plan it out well and blend in sections while the paint is still freshly wet. Once it's dry......fuggedaboutit!! But it is more vivid and does last longer..... Very Happy I'm speaking of wolfe here, saving up more money to get some DFX.
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Post by JBax on Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:38 am

True dat, Jen!
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 1:16 am

Well, personally, I don't like the DFX or Wolfe on MY FACE as a base so I would not subject other people to it. It is drying and uncomfortable to wear.

As I always work painted, often full face, I need it to feel nice and DFX and Wolfe don't. So I'll stick to my Kryolan, Snaz and Grimas for bases and keep the others for details and highlights.

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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Criss on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:55 am

Why do YOU want to switch Michelle?
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by LoneWolf on Thu Apr 15, 2010 4:07 am

You just need a slightly more damp brush or sponge, then it is quite possible to blend =)
(I don't mind a full face with DFX, forget I wear it. )
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Tash on Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:37 am

When I worked with Chris D he painted my arm in DFX and Tag, and some of it cracked, a bit of the white but mostly the dark purple. I really liked all the bright colors he had, but it did make my skin really dry and if i ran my hand over it i could feel it. I use Paradise for everything at the moment but I wanted to get some wolfe so this topic has got me thinking.
When I use my paint for bases it actually makes my skin softer, and you can't feel it at all - which is not good in one respect because you forget you have it on, so smudging is a big issue.
That's why I was going for the Wolfe - but if it feels bad when drying and cracks then I may have to rethink.
Do the neons have the same issue?
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Michelle Heffner on Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:47 am

Criss wrote:Why do YOU want to switch Michelle?

Mainly for speed of painting the bases. I've found that I have to dab/pat/dab/squish my creamier paints and take extra time to really work it into my sponge - Kryolan and Snaz.

With the Wolfe/DFX I can spritz the cake, swipe a few times with the sponge and then I only need to lightly swipe the sponge on the face to get a really solid base.

It saved me about 2 minutes on a face I was practicing on myself for speed the other night. I could NOT get it to go quickly with Snaz Red (which is odd b/c I used to think it was awesome) but I used Wolfe Red and it was sooo much faster and better looking.

That was my reason for the consideration. Plus, I already own almost 1 of every color from DFX anyway.

My main concern with switching to Wolfe/DFX for bases was the washing off which is why I won't use Paradise for my bases - they stain the living crap out of me! Paint me with Paradise and I will be green for a week.

I think I'm going to give it a shot and see where it takes me.

Thanks everyone!
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Guest on Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:09 pm

Whatever works! And two minutes per face... when you are doing PPF... that's how many more faces an hour???

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Post by michellesfantasyfaces on Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:21 pm

the man who owns the store i work for on a freelancebase sais I shouldn't even use a sponge...but do everything with a big brush...much thinner and faster..(once you get the hang of it, offcourse! Very Happy )...I'm still practicing on that!
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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Michelle Heffner on Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:38 pm

So I did it - I switched out almost all of my Snaz for split pots of DFX/Wolfe.

And I loved it!

Yay for speed Smile

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Re: I think I might switch to Wolfe/DFX for bases

Post by Sweet Loretta on Fri Apr 23, 2010 1:21 am

I Use Wolfe FX (paradise & kryolan) for full face art and full body painting.
I don't find any issues with cracking or difficulty blending - not more than any other brand. If there are issues it is all based with me the user. It is dry where an live and use my makeups and hot, most often a breeze or dry hot wind even - so sure there are moments in fast busy lines that I need to re-moisten a brush or sponge but you just learn for your environment.

I am a speed painter, but not why I use Wolfe - I love the vivid colors and flow and the stippling effects.

As for sponge vs brush - the makeup company reps and their top artists - every one teaches to use a sponge, it lays a base down much thinner. I am pretty versed in both applications - I don't use a brush for body painting at all but it has nothing to do with thin.
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