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Post by Funtopia on Mon May 31, 2010 10:19 am

Hi everyone! I'm new to the forum but will admit that I've been reading some of your topics and replies and I've found them quite helpful so thought I'd ask one.
I have a question re split cakes. I've only ever used Snazaroo as a main medium to the degree now that I sell Snazaroo in Australia. They don't do split cakes as they have a policy no-one touches the paint until the face painter does. As a result I make my own, however more and more of my face painters are asking me to make some up for them. I've been hesitant to this point and have only done some for a few close friends but what would your thoughts be if someone sold a split cake? Would any of you be concerned re the hygiene? Thanks for your time. Melissa.

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Post by Winger1200 on Mon May 31, 2010 10:34 am

Take a look at Metina's store.
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Post by Perry Noia on Mon May 31, 2010 2:25 pm

I think that economically speaking, it is more cost effective for one person to make a bunch of them. If people are asking you for them, then I see no reason why not.

Besides, once we take our brushes from the water to the cake... even once you touch the edge of the plastic cover over the cake... it's not sterile, if it ever was. I use nothing but Snazaroo, for various reasons. I don't currently use any rainbow cakes and have only made a few split cakes for the purposes of having all my colours available while using less space.
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Post by Funtopia on Mon May 31, 2010 6:21 pm

Thanks Ladies. I really appreciate your feedback. I looked at Metina's shop - Metina - how do you go with your customers with the whole hygiene senario or any comments from Snazaroo?

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Post by Tash on Mon May 31, 2010 7:58 pm

Hi Melissa,
Where in Australia are you? Always helps to know other Aussie artists!
As far as snazaroo goes I had been led to believe it was the only brand that had antibacterial properties - so if you were going to do it with any paint that would be the most hygienic, that said I use Paradise and make my own cakes out of those.... I use plastic gloves and cling wrap so my hands don't come into contact with the paint - that's more about transferred mess then about hygiene though, but it might help you.
I should also say that I bought a couple of Arty Cakes from Silly Farm - and they mix their paints..... snaz, kryolan and wolfe... I think, anyway I found the cakes don't wear evenly, any snaz melts down faster then the other colours - so theres a good reason not to mix brands.
Metina's is a good way to go - she uses DFX only - I think..... could be wrong about this..... and she will make up whatever combo you want.
I have to ask... If your 'friends' are painters couldn't they make their own rainbowcakes? Just curious.
If you need info about snazaroo you should be asking Gary on the Snaz forum - he's the King of Snaz.... but if your a retailer you probably already know this! Very Happy

Oh and Perry - How do yu live without rainbow cakes?
No rainbow butterflies, rainbow tigers or rainbow spidermen?
Sometimes If I'm doing ppf the rainbow cake is all I use for the last couple of people just to push them through really fast.
If someone asks you for a rainbow - you paint every color seperately?
Or are you just scared of rainbow cakes too? Wink
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Post by Funtopia on Mon May 31, 2010 8:09 pm

I'm in Brisbane. Three months ago I became the authorised Australian Supplier of Snazaroo as we decided to take that next step. We've just had our launch at the Eumundi Face and Body Art Carnival and had an absolute ball. I definitely wouldn't be mixing brands so I'm ok there.
I have quite a number of face painters/entertainers that I do contract work with as you would for events or gigs you can't get to yourself so it's more a case of I've got them all here and doing it for myself, there's always that other half Smile

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Post by Tash on Mon May 31, 2010 8:24 pm

Awesome, I'm so Jelous I wish I could of made it to Eumundi!! No
At the moment my work is what is keeping our heads above water - Sydney is so damned expensive, hopefull one day I will be able to travel for these events. I'm still hopeing to make it to Dalesford for next years MBAA.
I know Christina Davidson is doing classes in Nov? or Dec? in Queensland and my sister lives in Brisbane so I was hoping to make it up there for her classes - I just love her work!
Make sense if your a retailer people asking you to make them cakes as you would have the reserves for it... hadn't really thought about it like that.
Can I ask you do you find Snaz melts in our summer heat - especialy up there? Do you use a cooling method in Summer? I had stayed away from snaz mainly for this reason. Even my Paradise get misty and eventually gluggy in the heat.
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Post by Funtopia on Mon May 31, 2010 8:49 pm

I find my classic black is the only one I have an issue with for getting gluggy in summer. I don't find any problem with it on the skin, more an environmental issue with strong winds etc and the necessity to keep spraying the paint. For large events and small kids parties it's not a problem as you're either not in the weather long enough or for large events you go through most of it. Snazaroo pigments won't change so even though it get's gluggy over lots of small usage, just add water. I do go through mine quite quick.

Since I've put the 18ml pots into palettes rather than having them all separate, I've found that problem no longer exists for me as if I separate the main 8, then the sparkle,metallic, then greens and blues and pinks oranges and yellows etc, I put the lid on between faces when I'm not using that section of colours (hope that makes sense).

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Post by Funtopia on Mon May 31, 2010 8:57 pm

I don't use a cooling method except for a huggies baby wipe prior to painting if the kids are sweaty

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Post by chicneek on Mon May 31, 2010 10:11 pm

Even in our Canadian summers the snaz black gets goopy, I swapped it out of the jumbo palette for another colour and keep it under the table in the shade, the rest of the colours seem to handle the sun really well. I've used the snaz to make rainbow cakes and find they go on and blend so smoothly. They also feel lighter than the DFX rainbow when on my face. It would be cool if snaz made rainbows, extra cool if they were square.
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Post by Perry Noia on Mon May 31, 2010 11:44 pm

I prefer to have the control of doing each colour individually. I find that the size of a sponge is just too small to have a whole rainbow in that space... I want it FAR bigger than that. And I would NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER blaspheme the image of Spiderman by making it RAINBOW AAAAAAACK!!!! Sorry if I offend, but if it isn't the real Spiderman look, I really can't stand to look at it.

In any case, I use only Snazaroo because (1) I'm allergic to Wolfe/DFX/Tag/etc., (2) I can't stand the smell of Paradise, and (3) I have no problems with Snazaroo... you get used to it when you make yourself work with it.
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Post by Funtopia on Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:15 am

That's pretty much why I have used it and now have taken on selling it. It's the only face paint in 11 years that I can confidently use on kids in hospitals and under treatment. Burns victims and kids with cancer. That's how Funtopia started (my daughter 10 yrs old spent her first 6 in and out of hospital) and we will always keep that up. I'm not taking just faces but really creating that smile. I know some other brands might have more vibrant colours or UV etc but from my business focus Snazaroo has 57 colours and sparkles etc and that works for us.

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Post by vampkat on Fri Jun 04, 2010 8:35 am

I just made three rainbow cakes! Of course they are just a combination of three colors, but it's so pretty! I only have the 16 color snazzaroo pallet so I used pink, light blue and dark purple. It was a little messy, but now I have three rainbow "cakes" (even though they are small) and I TOTALLY know now I have to get more. So awesome!!!!
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Post by aprilmoonflower on Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:45 pm

Yes I would and have bought homemade rainbow cakes and splits. I have been thinking of putting some together myself and selling them via etsy. Though, I'd hate to spend a small fortune and not be able to sell them but I know I'd buy them and so might others! I had no idea Metina was selling split cakes! Awesome! Very Happy
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Post by Metina on Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:36 am

i use gloves and clean my exacto knife and razor blades in between with alcohol. i do the very best i can, but one can only do so much.

i have heard that heather at sf went to great lengths to have a sterile room set us for just making these, but unless folks don't mind paying 30 dollars each, i will just stick with my method.

what you need to understand is that while it is pretty easy to cut up our cakes and throw them into another pallette or container for our own use, it is a whole nother ballgame, when they have to look neat and tidy for a customer. it is extremely labor intensive to make splits.

i am not trying to discourage you, but be prepared. though i have found, that snaz is the easiest paint to work with becuase they freeze and go soft so quickly.

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ps sorry, the computer i am on has a faulty shift key.

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Post by twinkletattoos on Sat Jun 05, 2010 8:38 am

Metina wrote:i use gloves and clean my exacto knife and razor blades in between with alcohol. i do the very best i can, but one can only do so much.

i have heard that heather at sf went to great lengths to have a sterile room set us for just making these, but unless folks don't mind paying 30 dollars each, i will just stick with my method.

what you need to understand is that while it is pretty easy to cut up our cakes and throw them into another pallette or container for our own use, it is a whole nother ballgame, when they have to look neat and tidy for a customer. it is extremely labor intensive to make splits.

i am not trying to discourage you, but be prepared. though i have found, that snaz is the easiest paint to work with becuase they freeze and go soft so quickly.

-metina

ps sorry, the computer i am on has a faulty shift key.

I just got my split cakes from Metina today. She did a really great job making them neat and pretty. I think I really actually like the way that the snaz one is a bit more "creamy"--it loaded on my brush much better than the Factory made DFX ones I bought. I was all in a DFX mind state and now I feel like I might have to buy some Snaz too. My hubby is going to murder me.
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Post by Psalmbook on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:16 am

Just get a small $16 snaz kit & make your own. It's a great way to start making splits till you know what you like. I cut the small cakes in 2's & 3's & mix 'em up.
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Post by aprilmoonflower on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:19 am

Psalmbook wrote:Just get a small $16 snaz kit & make your own. It's a great way to start making splits till you know what you like. I cut the small cakes in 2's & 3's & mix 'em up.

this is exactly how I made my first splits. the bonus is the small snaz kits aren't thick so they are perfect for a newbie. the next ones I made were with DFX but they turned out a lot messier than the snaz. but they were just for me and a friend so no biggie.
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Post by twinkletattoos on Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:43 am

Psalmbook wrote:Just get a small $16 snaz kit & make your own. It's a great way to start making splits till you know what you like. I cut the small cakes in 2's & 3's & mix 'em up.

Great suggestion, thank you!
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Post by phinzfan72 on Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:13 am

Very late to this topic but did Metina say she freezes the cake first and then cuts them?

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Post by Amanda H. on Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:31 pm

Can I be a bit of a kill joy and advise why Snazaroo UK do not market rainbow cakes.

It is because they state that they would have to keep a record of each individual batch number of each colour used in every rainbow cake. Otherwise in case of reaction they would be unable to trace which colour/batch had created the problem. This is also the reason that Snazaroo US discontinued their rainbow cakes.

I would definitely check that you are authorised to do this as you may be prohibited by you license agreement.

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Post by twobluestripes on Mon Aug 30, 2010 3:03 am

i absolutely would buy it professionally. i would look for a variety of pleasing color combos, and a true rainbow is essential, i think, so if you use only snaz, homemade is the only way you can go.
i know they wear unevenly if you use regular and metallic in the same cake, but i think mixing the various beautiful shades and effects is part of the appeal!

as far as sanitation, the maker does have a responsibility to wash hands, wash empty containers first, etc, but i'm confident in the preservatives found in most face paint and makeup and don't think a special hygienic lab is necessary or anything...

i agree that it seems really hard to make them neat, but if you're selling them that is an important part of it. would probably take practice to get a really perfect looking cake.

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Post by Winger1200 on Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:17 am

The Snaz split cake I got from Metina still had the original film on top, so I guess she sliced thru that along with the paint, so her hands never touched the paint. It looked so professional!
I already have lots of half empty cakes & didn't need any more, so Metina offering to create custom split cakes is such a plus I intend to use more often, just to save space in my extra paint bin!
Special thanks, Metina!
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Sat Nov 20, 2010 10:46 am

Susan your avatar is very pretty and so delicate looking
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Post by Metina on Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:23 pm

Yes. I freeze them so that they are easier to cut and pop out of the containers. And yes, I slice through the protective film so I am not touching the paint and 99 % of the time, I can keep the film in place.

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