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Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:36 am

I did my first belly painting this weekend for a pregnant friend of mine. She is a professional photographer, and she had a photographer friend come and take pictures throughout the process. They both loved it and asked if they can refer me to their clients. This is somewhat of a new thing in our neck of the woods, so I'm not sure what the reaction will be. I'm wondering, though, what/how I should charge for something like this. I've been painting for a year, but I do mostly charity events (free plus the cost of supplies). I'm thinking about starting to pursue this more like a business, but I'm not sure what to charge, how to write contracts, etc. I'm hoping to learn a lot here.

Anyway, here is a picture. My friend liked this design found here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/ghelly/art/2974868-2-monarch-butterfly-garden and wanted it done EXACTLY how it was shown, but I told her I don't like to copy other artists' work exactly without changing anything to make it my own. She was fine with that and picked some of my other flower designs to add in. I'm not sure how much changing someone has to do to a design to make it ok to share pictures of it, but here it is.
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Post by Anita's Faces on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:24 am

I think your design is much better than the "original".
Great job!!!
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Post by michellesfantasyfaces on Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:41 am

very beatyful!...I agree with Anita...better than the 'original'
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Post by Sam on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:18 am

Beautiful!
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Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:41 am

Thanks. It was a lot more fun than I thought it would be. She's 9 months and ready to go any day. The baby's head is up, and it was so neat every time he turned his head. He was very active at that time of day! So exciting!

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Post by Psalmbook on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:15 am

Beautiful!
Yes, the babies love to move under the brush. They really know somethings going on.
As far as changing a design, as an artist, you're never going to make it exact & as long as you add your own flare to it, it becomes yours.
Pricing is usually based off of what your market can bare(are you in a big metropolitan city, a rural area, etc) & usually trying to be comparative w/ the local competition.
As far as marketing...
1) word of mouth is a great start.
2) Getting a website is another good thing to do(wix. com is free & awesome).
3) Having business cards (vistaprint.com has great free business cards & other free goodies).
Blessings on starting your business!
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Re: My first belly painting

Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:28 am

Thanks, Psalmbook. I live in the Triple Cities area, not really a big metro area, just a collection of towns and small cities. I'm about 45-60 minutes away from Ithaca, NY and 15 minutes away from Binghamton, NY. I guess that's maybe 4 hours from Buffalo? I'm not sure.

There isn't anyone else in our area doing belly paintings that I know of. There seems to be face painters, though. I haven't had much opportunity to really look at other painters' work or prices, but my husband has said they were charging $7 for full faces at a local festival. I guess that would be a little on the lower side than some of the other prices I've seen mentioned on the forums, but not the lowest, either. That is PPF pricing, though.

When you do bellies, do you charge per hour or per project? When you are working through a photographer, do you charge differently?

As far as websites, I haven't figured that out, yet. I'm not very proficient at computers. I know my friend wants to be able to point people to a website, so I need to figure it out soon. She also said I need to write up a contract, another thing I need to figure out fast!
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Post by Psalmbook on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:33 am

Do a google search in your area for face painters & see what comes up. That'll let you know who's out there. bkrvail is from that are. She's really good!


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Post by aprilmoonflower on Mon Sep 13, 2010 11:36 am

Lovely! I wish I had someone near to paint my belly! I am going to try to paint it myself with something simple, but I tried that with my 1st (before I started painting mind you so I was using Halloween paint..) and it was a disaster.
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Post by Lonnie on Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:33 pm

Beautiful! And I agree with the others - yours is better Very Happy
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Post by wmeventservices on Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:13 pm

April Moon Flower. I tried to paint my own belly four times when I was pregnant and it always went bad until I tried flowers. They were more forgiving than other designs when I couldn't see what the heck I was doing. Here is an example, maybe it will help you.

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Post by MichelleLA on Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:55 pm

I agree that your design is better.... love the whispey purple flowers.

Gosh I wish I had known about face/belly painting when I had a belly to paint.... now, when I get my confidence up I will just have to recruit other victims Smile
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Post by CATZ on Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:07 pm

Great job!

Not a lot of people do belly painting so you need to 'educate' others on the potential. Good start with the photographers.

I charge $100 per hour and tell them to arrange for their own photographer. Most designs are done in 2-3 hours. You can make an arrangement with photographers and maybe give them a discount on that and let them charge what they think their client would expect. That way you are just a subcontractor for their clients and you don't have to 'find' them.

Don't sell yourself short though. Product costs money and be proud of the skills you have. If you don't value them enough to charge, no one else will. The funny thing is, the more you charge, the more people want you because they percieve value. If it's given away...no value.
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Post by facefantasy on Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:59 pm

Love the design! Great job!
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Re: My first belly painting

Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:11 pm

Kittee, I didn't realize belly painting was such a big thing until I came on the forums. I approached my friend at church and asked her if I could paint her belly. She looked at me like I was crazy, and the more I tried to explain it to her she looked like she thought people were nuts! I gave up and just told her to go home and google belly paintings online, and then she could let me know if she wanted to do it. She called me several hours after getting home that day, all excited and ready to go! Now I'm thinking of other friends who are pregnant, but they all have quite a way to go before they will be ready for painting.
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Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:19 pm

Oh my goodness! The photographer who did the photo shoot made a video of me painting and put it on you tube! I've never been on you tube before. I guess she REALLY liked my work! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmE-m_mlZ4c
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Post by chucklor2 on Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:21 pm

My husband is saying he thinks $50 an hour is the price I should charge. Do you think that's a good price? If I charge that much and then the photographer charges more, will there be an issue with clients finding out I charge less than the photographer charged them, or should I put a higher price on my website but charge the photographer $50? What do you think?
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Post by aprilmoonflower on Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:55 pm

Is it possible to just charge a package rate and you each take your cut? Seems like less of a hassle anyway for the client. Just a thought. (And I think $50 is a great rate to start with!)

Off to watch the video now! Very Happy
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Post by estelle on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:19 am

very nice !!
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Post by Psalmbook on Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:55 am

The video's been removed Sad
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Post by chucklor2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:59 am

She had to make some changes to the video, so there's a new address:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHcsgjDrG_I

Thanks for all the kind compliments!
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Post by Deleena Cannon on Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:06 am

Wonderful work. I love your butterflies!!
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Post by MichelleLA on Sun Sep 19, 2010 11:16 am

It's great that your friend is excited:)

In theory I can probably find bellies pretty easily since I have a two year old and belong to a moms group -- but since I a total newbie -- so far just taking FP workshops, I feel I need to practice more and improve my techniques before I "mess" with someones belly Very Happy

I'm wondering what is the optimal time frame to catch them moms? Is 6-7 months too early?
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Post by chucklor2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:11 pm

I'm still kind of new to painting bellies myself, so I'm not sure what the best time frame would be. I would think 34-37 weeks, but then you chance the mom going into labor early. This was my first time, and the mom was 37 weeks along. She was afraid she might not make it to the session, but we just couldn't get our schedules to match up until then. By the time we met, she had already been having a lot of Braxton Hicks for about a week.
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Post by chucklor2 on Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:11 pm

Thanks Deleena.
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