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Post by Kukilunestar on Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:43 pm

For one, it's for a large non-profit event, and though I've been reading the experiences and suggestions on here, I'm still a touch freaked out on the panicked side lost on how to get everything organized before Saturday.

What I have already on my list to do is:

Make a Manners list
Make a Pricing list [I charge per face, half goes to the organization]
Make a Tip Jar

Is there anything else I should do? Or any tips on how to approach this?
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by Daizy on Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:29 pm

Any advertising for yourself... business cards, information if they want you to paint for Birthday parties...??
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by JBax on Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:47 pm

Snacks and drinks for yourself! Self care is way important!

A loud line manager is helpful. Manage the line when there is one, act as a barker when there isn't.

Deep cleansing breath... you do what you can and let go of the rest. It'll be great!
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by Kukilunestar on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:19 pm

...ah, I should have put that I have advertising ^-^;;;

I shall work on getting info sheets out however. May also have to buy more cards.

Also, a few other questions. What do you do if a parent keeps...erm...disagreeing with you on how to run your business.

I keep trying to practice, she says I'm wasting resources. I say that I need to advertise more, and possibly buy a few more items, she says I'm needlessly spending money and I need to save it for college (which I understand, but I'm still starting out). I say I can take pictures of myself for a board to put designs on, she says it's a stupid idea, and that most painters don't do that...despite having as much experience as I. Which is not much. At all.

I don't want to disrespect her, and she is my main help when it comes to transportation and supply purchasing, but it's starting to get to the point where we're arguing more than discussing, and I'm getting rather frustrated when I try to explain things, and she goes off on a tangent in the middle of a sentence on what I'm trying to do is wrong as she gives suggestions.

Also, I'm starting to feel a touch guilty for how much I'm charging for my services. I charge around 50 per hour, but I think it's a touch too high for someone just starting out.
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by JBax on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:42 pm

You need to talk with Ashley Pickin! Her facepainting business is paying for college! Oh, and she's a fantastic artist and good person all around!

I think a business plan would be helpful. Write out your goals for your business and the plans to achieve them. Share that with the rents.

There are ways to advertise for free, there's threads around here about it. Definitely go that route and show the rents how resourceful you are at utilizing what's out there.

It's always how you word things, and being creative on working out a solution. You can point out how proud you are of your work and development, and want people to know what they are getting. Being open to lawsuit due to copyright infringement is an argument, but she'll guess that it's not worth the trouble to go after a teenager. But a bigger issue is the moral aspect of passing off work that isn't your own, and how you don't feel comfortable with that (possibly due to their good parenting?).

And be researching on this one as well for the most cost effective way to display images. Sam's Club is the cheapest around for getting prints if your family has a membership. I got a vinyl shoe hanger to display my pics for $20. It doesn't have to be a major investment yet.

Usually when there is a conflict, it comes down to a difference in values. She might see this as a fad for you and doesn't want to buy you the guitar when you will drop the lessons in a few months. Or, she's afraid you'll run away and join the circus... Get what I mean? Or it could be that you are becoming more independent, and she still wants to be someone you take advise from. Find out what it is she values and address that. Reassure her that college is your main focus, and that the facepainting should begin paying for itself soon.

And, don't sweat your fees. Before long, you'll decide to raise them.

Good luck,
And remember, this is her first time (supporting a young business owner) too.
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by pjhamel on Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:54 pm

My face painting is paying for college too, and I've had similar experiences with my mom. It took my first festival gig to convince her that face painting was actually a viable money maker and not just an expensive hobby. As for the pictures, my board is filled with pictures of myself, my sister, one of her friends, and two of my neighbor's granddaughter. Until you can get other models, I say take as many pictures of yourself modeling your work as you can and use them. Practice too, because the more you practice, the better you get. The better you get, the more gigs you get. And the more gigs you get, the more money you make. And you can use that money to replace the supplies used practicing.
Good luck with your gig!
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by chicneek on Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:14 pm

Hi,
I agree practice is vital and practicing and then taking pix is a wise investment in your time and your resources. It is definitely worth it to use up some materials so you know exactly how to use them and how to clean them up. If you have a birthday, Christmas or special occasion ask for materials or gift certificates for gifts. Maybe quit spending until you make a little money always putting aside a percentage for more supplies, training and promo materials showing the parents how committed you are to this business venture. I agree with the others who suggested finding the free promo avenues.
As for painting yourself, at every gig I have parents and children alike who can't believe so many of the pictures are of me, some they don't even believe and they are even more impressed that I can paint on myself than I can paint other people. It also works because I rarely have time to take a pic at a gig and I don't need to worry about releases.
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by Psalmbook on Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:09 pm

As far as your 1st gig, bring a note book to take down contact info. Follow through right away w/ your contacts.

As far as mom's concerns, having a financial plan w/ 3 month, 6 month & 12 month goals to achieve(you may not achieve them all, but it's still good to have them). Also, allocating $ back into your business to buy paints, pics, supplies, etc. Having a wish list for items you'd like in the future.

I agree, practicing is your best investment. The better you get the more desirable you'll be. Before I had a website, advertising & practiced I got a job every 2-3 months & it was mostly birthday parties. Then I got the website, advertised & practiced & improved... Now I'm booked every weekend for multiple events(big events/birthday parties) & get complements everywhere I paint. This went from a hobby to a way to pay bills & put food on the table.
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by Kukilunestar on Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:06 am

Thank you all for the advice!

..buut..

Ends up, the event got postponed until spring...

Ah, well. I'll still keep the advice to heart, plus, I'll get more practice.
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Re: I have another gig, but...

Post by barbb919 on Sun Sep 26, 2010 11:18 pm

Keep practicing, I also got business cards from Vistaprint.com you can get free cards and just pay shipping,, they have design templets you can chose from.. good luck
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