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Post by aussiemarie on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:06 pm

At a fun fest this weekend painting faces and I use Snazeroo and Diamond FX paints. A parent came by with her kids painted already painted as "clowns" and asked if I could "touch up" their faces. I was worried that the paint was a "walmart" type brand based on mineral oil (parent did not know what type of paint it was, although she put it on her kids) and would gum up my brushes. Am I right? What would you have said to parent?
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Post by CreateFaces on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:19 pm

It's happened to me before and I offered the mum use of my baby wipes and told her I thought it would make a mess if I tried to layer on top of what was already there.
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Post by BluAngL83 on Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:47 pm

I tell the parents that I can not face paint on top of other paints, known or unknown. That if they would like me to paint their child they would need to wash it off first. I only let them use my wipes if its a very tiny thing. I dont want to waste my wipes.
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Post by AngieAnders on Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:32 pm

I'm pretty easy going about this sort of thing. I'll paint over other designs, over make-up, over temp tattoos... never had a problem. I don't like being asked to wipe off old paint, since that takes a lot of time when I have a line waiting, but I'll do that too if the child is already in my chair. (Otherwise I hand them a wipe and ask them to do it.)
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:13 pm

I won't do it just on GP, but if they purchase a design from me then I will wipe off and re-do
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Post by CreateFaces on Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:22 pm

I always have the parents do the wiping and I only offer wipes when someone is paying for the design.
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Re: Snaz on top of "halloween face paints"?

Post by Lady Jayde on Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:41 pm

It's a no for me. And for two reasons:

1. Baby wipes have been linked to some allergic reactions people have to the paint. I don't know what we're wiping our baby's butts with, but there's something that mixes with the paints and spurs allergic reaction and severe staining for some people (including myself).

2 Add to that the fact that the ingredients of the existing face paints and the my paints may not be good. If the parent were to file a claim against me due to an allergic reaction, it would come out that I'd painted over questionable paints and then I'd be left out to dry by the insurance company.

It's just not worth the risk is all I'm saying. I had several approach me last night and I told them that I could paint something on their kid's arm but the face was officially off limits sense they'd already put makeup on it and there could be a reaction to the paints.
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Post by Perry Noia on Mon Nov 01, 2010 7:37 pm

I would just have them wash it off first (either in the washroom or with wipes, whatever) then re-paint them completely.
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Post by Guest on Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:51 pm

I do not touch any face that is already painted. And no way are they using my supplies to clean it off!!

I tell them I can't paint over top of products that I did not apply and therefore do not know as my liability insurance would have a problem with that if they had a reaction.

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Post by Psalmbook on Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:34 pm

Ditto on the insurance issue. I won't paint on anyone who's already painted. I had a lot of people at my Haunted House gig who wanted touch ups.
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Post by AngieAnders on Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:38 pm

Just to play devil's advocate here... but has anyone ever heard of a lawsuit being filed over a paint reaction? Because I've asked lots of people over the years if they have ever heard of anything of the sort, and have never heard of or found anyone who knew anything about anything ever being filed. Just sayin'.

What I am about to say may be controversial. Proceed with caution, and please no one lynch me. Haha...

It doesn't matter to me who wants to paint over other paint, or use a baby wipe or mix brands of paint. Those are personal decisions and don't really effect our work much one way or the other. The reason I even bring it up is because we as face painters seem to spend a lot of time talking about or thinking about insurance concerns - what is or isn't covered, etc, and I have a feeling that the risk of being sued or even having to file a claim is pretty low on the This-Might-Could-Maybe-Possibly-Happen-Once-in-a-Million-Years list. Suspect The risk of LOSING a lawsuit seems to be even lower on said list. I don't know... maybe we are thinking this stuff over too hard.

Angie (who will probably get sued tomorrow now) tongue
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Post by Lady Jayde on Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:56 am

When we live in a country where a woman can sue a store after stumbling and falling over her own rambunctious child...and win...I'm taking no chances. Our society is VERY litigious now adays and with the courts awarding judgments regardless of circumstances that clearly indicate that none should be awarded (like the guy who sued and won after he broke into a garage, got locked in and was forced to eat animal food for a number of days until the owners got back from vacation...never mind the criminal trespass...he got pain and suffering compensation!). It wouldn't put it past me to have a parent intentionally orchestrate an allergic reaction just so they can have grounds for a lawsuit...and if the painter doesn't have an insurance company to go to bat for them...heaven help them!

The number of lawsuits are indeed small, but I'm not willing to be the person to set a precedent for an increase. I don't believe its wise to mix unknown substances with my paints on a child's face, therefore, I won't do it. Of course, everyone has a right to their opinion.
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Re: Snaz on top of "halloween face paints"?

Post by Kristal on Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:55 am

Shannon Fennell wrote:I do not touch any face that is already painted. And no way are they using my supplies to clean it off!!

I tell them I can't paint over top of products that I did not apply and therefore do not know as my liability insurance would have a problem with that if they had a reaction.

...and if they left, used their own wipes/scrubbed it off in the bathroom/etc and came back, and you didn't recognise them as having asked earlier?

I hadn't thought about the mixing paints bit - or if I did, it was a fleeting thought. I won't paint over someone's work, nor will I remove it myself, but hadn't thought beyond that. I can see myself using the insurance line at public events, but it would be harder to say that at a private party.
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Re: Snaz on top of "halloween face paints"?

Post by AngieAnders on Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:57 am

For those concerned about lawsuits, be careful using the neon rainbow cakes that we all love, which are not (technically) made for use on the face. I doubt the insurance co. would back you up on a claim involving neons.

I work with someone in my "other" job who is so worried about lawsuits that it has really effected our ability to be productive. I finally decided that I'm not going to let fear of lawsuits dictate what I choose to do or offer beyond reason. If someone wants to sue me that badly, they will find a way regardless of what I do to prevent it.
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Post by Perry Noia on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:19 pm

there's not much you could do if they had a reaction to the moisturizer that they put on that morning and blamed it on your paints... or ate strawberries they didnt' know they were allergic to.... all kinds of things COULD happen. I wouldn't paint over it because my water based paints wouldn't go over that greasy crap well and it would look like crap! Nothing to do with reactions and stuff.
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Post by Michelle Heffner on Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:23 pm

AngieAnders wrote: If someone wants to sue me that badly, they will find a way regardless of what I do to prevent it.

Bingo.

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Post by Guest on Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:10 am

If they want to go and wash before approaching me, and the face is clean... then I don't know about the previous painting so I don't really care at that point.

If they come to me already painted and expect me to "fix", "improve", remove or provide them with the means to do so? No way.

I've been approached by a parent and kid who was painted with pastel and craft glitter... they wanted me to "add" to it (I was painting "for free" aka hired to paint) - told them no. They'd already paid someone else $5 for what they had, so live with it.

I won't touch other FPer's work, period.

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