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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Miss Yoko on Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:34 pm

SuzySparkles wrote:That is enough of the arguing. Please resume post as adults...

Did I said something wrong? Sorry I don't get it...

But maybe I'm just not welcome here...
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by SuzySparkles on Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:37 pm

You are very welcome, it just seems as though everyone is arguing in this thread and it is my job to keep the peace so to speak... It wasn't aimed at you or to anyone in specific... I am just asking people to post in a friendly manner and to stop the bickering so that everyone can have a good time posting their ideas about what to do that is a little extra special for the birthday child. That is all.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Miss Yoko on Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:44 pm

I think the thread is friendly, nobody is insulting people or so.

And btw, Spectrum on her last post came with a really important information that change everything about the thread. She does her Face Painting passion as a hobby... not as a career (ok i don't like that word, but anyway). Then, yes, i then can understand her point of view, but again as a career... its a huge waste of money.
I'm not arguing at all and I don't think anyone else was.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Kristal on Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:27 pm

I understand that there can be a different outlook when it's career vs hobby (opposed to even career vs hobby-that-I-want-to-be-a-career), but I'm still unsure about why you feel like a guest when you've been hired?

Do you show up, get a drink, have some food, chat with everyone, then at some point say, "Oh, you know what - I've got my paints! Who wants to have their face painted?" or do you show up, set up, and start to paint?

(No arguing undertones meant!)
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by SuzySparkles on Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:40 pm

I have brought presents to parties... Nothing like 10 or 15 dollars... but I have brought like a $5.00 barbie. Most parties make me feel like a guest, most practically shove food down my throat and I have become friends with a lot of people who have booked me... If I had the money to do so I would probably get each kid a gift but they equally like getting the 'birthday girl/boy' glitter tattoo that they get and usually walk around showing everyone Smile I guess everyone is different...
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Post by Psalmbook on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:03 pm

Back to bringing presents for the birthday child:
Back when I 1st started off, I'd take a gift. Usually something from the dollar store. Now, however I don't because so may cheap dollar store items have high levels of lead or use paint that is unsafe for kids. I decided against gifts at this point & really can't afford to take a $15 cut into my business by getting the nicer gifts.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Spectrum on Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:44 pm

I know what you mean about the food Suzy, I go back and forth with should I, shouldnt I, I usually will take a slice of cake when they bring it to me, but I'll just let it sit there until I'm done doing what I'm doing. I think it's interesting to see how each party goes. I'm pretty sure that I've packed on atleast 10 pounds this past year from Birthday parties alone. Darn them and their cakes. I'm a sucker for that super sweet buttercream bakery icing, as a kid I use to dream about falling into a pool of that stuff and having to eat my way out. Gotta get back to work...sometimes I wish Monday was part of the weekend, but then Tuesday would be the problem! Wink Hope everyone is having a good start to their week!
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Post by twobluestripes on Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:19 pm

i absolutely agree that at birthday parties, it is a great idea to make the birthday person feel a little extra special. usually their family is the one hiring you, and it goes a long way, but also, the birthday girl or boy shouldn't feel like something else is upstaging their day. no one likes that.

i know lots of facepainters bring like, a sparkly plastic tiara for birthday girls, or a cool bandanna or foam crown for birthday boys to wear on their heads. I like the idea having something small and cheap, but fun because it's just for them. a slap bracelet or cool key chain, or something. Oriental Trading Company would be my source for this, if I did it!

Right now all I am doing is carrying a pack of knock-off silly bands in my kit in case a child becomes upset about something and needs cheering up, or for those kids that always arrive very late to the party, and run up to you in a group just as you are done and leaving expecting or demanding to be painted. sorry, silly bands and stickers all around and i'm outta there!!!

i don't want to be argumentative, but i totally disagree with the idea that you are a guest, though. you are not a guest as the party, you're not participating in the fun festivities that the planners have provided. you ARE part of the festivities!!! you're there to do the best job possible, make the kids and parents feel special (especially birthday person), which may or may not include a little surprise. the planners aren't offering you the comforts of their home or anything, and i very rarely get offered a plate of food (and even then i refuse at least once before accepting graciously when they insist).

if your given prices are US dollars, i definitely think that doesn't make business sense. it's way too much and kind of strange to give such a gift to a kid you've never met. i think that if you want to keep giving a little surprise to the birthday person, you should check out orientaltrading.com so you can buy little gifts in bulk and not spend so much money per party. i don't do this as a career either, just for fun and to develop a skill, make a little extra cash to supplement my paycheck... but it's like taking 10-15 dollars off you're price if you're spending that much per party! and definitely stocking up before hand on little surprises everyone would like will help save time as well.

Perry Noia wrote:I've found that a colouring page or small colouring book with your contact info plastered all over it, along with the little 3 packs of crayola crayons for ALL the kids at the party... go over VERY well. While your $10 gift may be very well received and they'll remember that "the face painter" gave it to them.... where did their card go? what was their name again? oh well....

A magnetic card that will stay on the fridge (costs you about 50 cents), a two page double sided folded in half and stapled colouring book (about 40 cents), and a 3 pack of crayons (depending on where you get them, about 25 cents)... for less than a buck a kid, they ALL go home with my info plastered on everything and the colouring book gets stuck up on the fridge for a while.

Just something to think about. The birthday kid won't be for another year, the rest of the kids at the party could keep you going every month until then!

very smart! i love the magnet w/ your info idea, especially if it's got a cute enough photo on it that they WANT to keep it on the fridge!!

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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Perry Noia on Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:11 pm

when I first started, I gave dollar store prizes to the kids (because that's what my mentor clown did)... I gave them to ALL the kids (special birthday kid stuff comes in the form of bringing them up to the "stage" and doing a little schtick with them)... problem was, it took a long time for them to pick through all the toys, it didn't really help market me at all and I was constantly having to run out to find crap to keep in the goody bag.

So, I fell upon the idea of colouring pages/books and crayons. It's about the same cost per child, but they are all the same so they are fast to hand out, they are strictly marketing but they are fun for the kids. Photobucket seems to be down right now or I'd post a sample of what I do. Totally not trying to be a huge sales person here or anything, but if anyone would like me to make a colouring page for them, I like doing the characters Very Happy
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by IamGinaW on Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:11 pm

Perry, I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of the coloring books!
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Perry Noia on Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:30 pm






these are photocopied front and back onto two 8 1/2 x 11 pages, folded in half and stapled on the fold. I can get it all done professionally for about $40 for 100 of them ... I imagine the cost per book would be even less if I did more at a time but that's generally all I can afford in one go. I've done the folding and stapling myself, but I've found that the cost isn't that different to have them do it and it saves me a lot of time. I have to update these now to have my new website url on them, I'm running low on books now anyway. (and no worries, my old url still works for my site, I'd just rather be advertising the new one).
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Guest on Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:37 pm

Perry that is a great little book!

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Post by Perry Noia on Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:06 pm

thank you!! Very Happy
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Lady Jayde on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:04 am

I'm sorry, but a face painter is no more a guest in my house than a plumber is and he doesn't buy me presents either.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Kristal on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:25 am

Although he does present you with a bill.

Ba-DUM-dum! Very Happy
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:47 am

[snicker] Rolling Eyes

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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Guest on Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:35 am

And sometimes if your lucky....a little crack. hahahahaha

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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by EVENTERTAINMENTS on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:07 pm

Wish I had some kind of character so I could get one of these Sad but I just have my logo for the business, and its not really fun Sad I really want one! lol
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Spectrum on Tue Nov 09, 2010 1:33 pm

I just want to offer a very friendly, very small suggestion.

I think it's smart to thoroughly read the entire postings, take time to comprehend them, then perhaps if needed....re-read them before posting responses.

A couple of the responses to my posting here have totally missed the point of the original post. Please take the time to read the original posters replys before just reading the most recent reply and responding. It looks as if some people have just logged in and started typing for the sake of typing.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do and I was certain not everyone would agree with my idea, but sometimes just taking time to read the original posters responses will clear up any misunderstandings and save you many keystrokes.

I'm not one to get into altercations with people, especially people in other states or even other countries, but if you are going to take the time to post your opinion (which I enjoy reading very much) atleast have respect enough for the poster of the topic to read their responses before suggesting that their ideas are pretty much worthless. I know that we don't all have to agree 100% of the time, or even like each other...but I think the forum alone and each and every person does deserve respect from each other.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Terina on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:01 pm

I have been busy this weekend so, just coming in late on this topic. I do what perry does. I drew up a little book.Mine should be made smaller I think though...it would save me money. I drew pictures of our family and then give them out to the kids. This did bite me in the butt about a month ago, because I told the mom we handed out coloring books.But, we did not have enough so I had to go buy coloring books. I wasted $20 bucks at the dollar store.

But usually, I keep better track of my orders for them. I don't usually give the birthday child a big gift,but, in our magic sow I present a small $1 toy from the chic pan before the real magician does the show. LOL. We also hand out candy for the party kids but, this an get expensive so sometimes we just do that for the birthday child.

I always send a email to the parents after the event to follow up. I did buy some cards to mail to kids but I have not done that yet.
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by EVENTERTAINMENTS on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:06 pm

Spectrum wrote:I just want to offer a very friendly, very small suggestion.

I think it's smart to thoroughly read the entire postings, take time to comprehend them, then perhaps if needed....re-read them before posting responses.

A couple of the responses to my posting here have totally missed the point of the original post. Please take the time to read the original posters replys before just reading the most recent reply and responding. It looks as if some people have just logged in and started typing for the sake of typing.

I'm not trying to tell anyone what to do and I was certain not everyone would agree with my idea, but sometimes just taking time to read the original posters responses will clear up any misunderstandings and save you many keystrokes.

I'm not one to get into altercations with people, especially people in other states or even other countries, but if you are going to take the time to post your opinion (which I enjoy reading very much) atleast have respect enough for the poster of the topic to read their responses before suggesting that their ideas are pretty much worthless. I know that we don't all have to agree 100% of the time, or even like each other...but I think the forum alone and each and every person does deserve respect from each other.

It's the way forum threads work. Someone posts, and then another posts and so on, and in time, the thread changes direction and migrates into something else. However, on this occasion, we were all still talking about 'gifting' the child in some way. People have simply offered their way of doing it, the same as you did. You never asked an initial question, just offered advice, and people have added theirs onto the end. Other people have responded too, but the thread is still on topic. Do you only want people to reply to YOUR post? I'm confused...
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Lady Jayde on Tue Nov 09, 2010 2:40 pm

Well, for me, I DO read the entire thread...and then I respond to whoever I desire to respond to within that thread. As Eventertainments said above, it's the nature of the online forum; fluid and diversified. To imply that others haven't versed themselves in the topic of discussion simply because they have chosen not to reply directly to it...well...
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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Miss Yoko on Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:19 pm

Then to come back on the thread, I think even if I wanted to bring a gift, its really not easy. You have to be really careful as little things in goodies bags could be dangerous for the little ones. Also you don't know those people so what they like, what they don't like...
I saw that someone mentioned a cheap Barbie... What if the mom is an ultra-feminist and is completely against that kind of doll?

Bringing a gift can be great, but can be risky also...

Like Perry Noa I do bring sometime coloring pages :
http://fancifulfaces.com/images/stories/painter-black-white.pdf

And also I print a personal BDcard :


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Re: Present for the BIRTHDAY kid

Post by Spectrum on Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:49 pm

I hope everyone is having a great day wherever you may be. A big hello from Virginia. Smile I'm just going to thank everyone for their responses no matter how you chose to respond. Hope everyone finds time to come to the live chat that we've started having from time to time in the chat box located on the home page. We've been having a lot of fun in there! Changingfaces has asked me to do a post sometime soon reminding people of the chat since she's going to be at fabbulas, so keep an eye out....some of the very coolest people have joined in so far. Gotta get back to work!


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Post by Spectrum on Tue Nov 09, 2010 3:53 pm

Terina, that was a wonderful idea...I love magic shows and puppet shows too! I'm 30 and still enjoy those things as much as the kids. Very creative way to add a little something extra to the B-Day childs day.
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