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Post by wmeventservices on Mon Dec 20, 2010 9:26 pm

Not having pictures to start with is a problem I'm sure the majority of us had when we started. I was confused as to how to advertise myself without photos as well. I wasn't all about having my own face in all the photos. There's nothing wrong with it, I just am not comfortable with it. So I asked the grocery store a block from my house if I could volunteer to paint faces to build my portfolio and they were happy to have me. I booked my first three parties from volunteering there and I got the photos I needed. If you volunteer, be prepared with business cards. Market yourself while you get the photos you need. Hope this helps.
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Post by CATZ on Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:21 pm

What about your friends? I bet they'd love to be your models. I actually like painting on myself because I can take my time and not worry about a wiggling model Laughing It's just taking the photo afterwards that's a bit of a challenge.
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:09 am

Angel and Joel are soooooo over being mommy's cutesy models, so the only face left to turn to is mine.

pre-teens can be a real pain sometimes
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Post by CottonKandyClown on Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:25 pm

You could always do cheek art on yourself and crop the pic so it doesn't show that you are an adult Wink Although, I have several adult designs I did on myself on my display. Little girls pic the adult designs all the time Smile
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Post by Deleena Cannon on Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:05 pm

A lot of my pictures were of myself to begin with. I brought my camera and a photo waiver and asked parents if i could use their childs face`on my display board. People are usually more than happy!!! Slowly but surely I start to build a display board with kids face on it.
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Post by IamGinaW on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:13 pm

Oh I do a lot of cheek art on my thigh and crop it so you can only see the design.
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Post by Geekophile on Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:29 pm

Now we all knowyour secret. Whoo hoo! Wink
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Post by Frenchie the Face Painter on Wed Dec 22, 2010 10:00 pm

I'm new too!
I have been FP for about 5 months, I am always too busy to stop and take a pictures when I'm at an event...Sometimes if the parents are taking pictures of the child I will hand them my card ask if they could please email me a photo... or text me....they get my card and I get a picture.
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Post by IamGinaW on Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:23 am

Geekophile wrote:Now we all knowyour secret. Whoo hoo! Wink
...a trick I learned from someone here - more surface area than your arm! LOL! Laughing

and now you all know that my thighs are shaved, but not my calves! LOL Laughing
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Post by Perry Noia on Thu Dec 23, 2010 8:58 am

hehe... I usually use the back of my hand for cheek art stuff because it's about the same size as the average cheek. Wink
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Post by CatherineR on Fri Dec 24, 2010 5:04 pm

I have done some face painting on a volunteer basis during the Christmas events that took place here recently just so I could practice on children and all I had was a list of the things I could do. When someone asked for something not on the list I would say "sorry, just what is on the list" and they were ok with that. This way, I wasn't under any pressure to do something I was not completely comfortable with doing. I could have winged it but why add pressure as I was not getting paid for it? This just gives you more power Very Happy
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Post by PaintAndGlitter on Sat Jan 01, 2011 4:16 pm

I would advise using all your own photos, like Psalmbook when I am at a party or event I like to use a list, That why I don't have to paint the same "princess or butterfly" all day long...
If it is a pay per face event I like a board, take a camera with you and the events when you use a list will let ya get a good data base of photos starting.
In the beginning I sometimes had to borrow photos for one reason or another, I did always make sure it was from artist I knew and would not mind, and that I could paint it dead on, and as soon as I got my pic of it I would replace it....

Best of luck!
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Post by artyfacesbyluz on Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:58 pm

SNAZAROO has this policy about the pictures in their web "You may print them out for your personal use. They are the property of the individual painter. You may not publish them for any commercial purpose or add them to another web site or printed piece without the written permission of the painter." the purpose of the web it is to get you inspired so you buy more products, so it is pretty normal if you print the pictures and have them in your personal book, then you change for your own because kids get very disappointed when your work doesn't look exactly like the pic.
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Post by Guest on Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:25 pm

Elise wrote:So I was thinking maybe until i establish my own pictures, do you think it's okay to borrow just to put in a photo album as examples ?

No.

Use templates and colour them if you don't have photos. The excuse of not having photos is a cop-out.

I have LOTS that are of myself and my brother... both adults. So what? The photos are to simply show the design options and standard of painting.

For my first season of face painting I used a template of four faces per page that I coloured (there are templates on my free resources page that can be used for this.)

Once I had a decent number of photos of my own work I switched to using photos.

When I needed to create a new display for a specific use I spent all of one Sunday painting myself 17 times so I could take photos to put on the display.

If you want to use photos take the time to take them of your own work.

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Post by belle on Thu Mar 03, 2011 7:19 am

I took my paints camping just so I could practise while I was sitting around, I'm sure every kid in the camping area ended up painted at some stage as well as a few adults, no photos unfortunately as I had only planned to practise on me but had heaps of fun and the extra models were definitely a bonus. I'm sure kids can smell face paint from a mile away!!
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Post by AshleyMarie727 on Thu Mar 03, 2011 8:47 am

Yeah i deff. would not take anyone's picturesjust because that is something they also worked so hard to accomplish. I would either just use yourself to take photos, because really people just want to see what you can offer. Or i have in my portfolio drawn versions of what i offer that way it just sort of gives the children an idea plus once it is all done and they see the final outcome they are so thrilled it makes it all worth it. just take your time and make it your own. And it will pay off in the long run when you go thru trial and error and just practice practice practicce! good luck!
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Post by LillyW on Sat Mar 05, 2011 12:17 pm

I have a zillion good photos, and I use a book of them to look through. HOWEVER, it is much easier, and more effective, if you use color photo practice sheets, and paint your designs on those. That way, you can add glitter and jewels on the paper, which show up! Email me, and I will send you one Smile lilly@funfacepainting.com

Besides, you can make sure each design is just PERFECT.

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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky on Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:07 am

I agree, don't use others' photos. I mean, think of how you'd feel when you get better and DO have your own photos and you were to see one or more on someone ELSE's board? I'd be pretty upset, and I have been in that situation before and was not happy. I ended up confronting the lady about it and had a copy of said pic saved on my iPod as proof.

When I have new designs I want to try out or designs I need to practice for a competition I'll be in, I bribe my neighbor kids that I babysit for all the time. This helps me get in the practince and photos I need, and I become the "cool" babysitter on the block, so another added source of income. Very Happy
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Post by Wildcatfin on Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:23 pm

Theres already a recent thread on here re 'stealing' pics..

As said, nope, please don't.

I used to paint my own face for photos or paint ovals of paper with designs, till I get pic.

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Post by Terina on Thu Mar 10, 2011 11:47 am

Even if you get permission to use someone else's photos then they will not reflect your personal style. It WILL look different. Have you seen all the different tiger faces just on the forum? Everyone has their own flair. I always just paint my own. Then you don't have any pressure to repeat a design that you didn't come up with.

BTW, your original post for this was near Christmas and it is almost Spring time so, have you had the chance to get any pictures or anything yet? How is your new business coming along?
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Post by Fun2Play on Thu Jun 23, 2011 11:08 pm

I too am a beginner with the same problem, the chicken & the egg! scratch

So I got inspired by this forum & have just made contact with a local holiday park and offered to volunteer fp in the school holidays. they greatfully accepted & offered for me to use their paints. However, she told me they were from the $2 shop, so I said I'd be happy to use mine because I am confident they are a great quality (TAG). Now I can get some photos and build a great gallery.

So what should I have in my photo waiver form?

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Post by sunflower on Wed Jun 29, 2011 12:57 pm

I use a manaquin head - found in any beauty supply store that sells heads to hair dressers to practice cutting hair. You can paint on the faces (the heads come with out hair) take a photo, wash the head and paint again and again.
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Post by thereallara on Wed Jun 29, 2011 4:08 pm

Elise wrote:I have been planning on starting my small facepainting business for a while, i have all of my equipment and everything. I just don't really know where to start. So I was going to start advertising and just jump in, maybe even the first few parties half price just to get my experience up. But my problem is, is that I have only about 7 pictures of different faces, three of them being butterflies.

I know it's not fair to steal other people's facepaint artworks and display them in a book or such. But I have nothing to be able to give examples to the customers from which they can choose from. I would be more than happy to display my own artwork and spend time facepainting to create the examples myself, but I have no kids to paint on. And doing it on my father and sister as I have already looks wrong.

So what do I do ? Neutral

I *did* use other people's pictures in my booth when I started because I had none of my own. I displayed credit for the work buy marking the photos with "Painted by...", "Original Artwork by...", "Face Art Idea From..", and also used face painting books as ideas for kids to choose from. As long as you are making it clear that the work in the photo is that of another artist, I see nothing wrong with using it as an example or starting point. The problem comes from displaying another's work *as your own*, or using it on your website, web gallery, business card, etc. Especially bad when someone has your photo in their book or gallery marked, "here are some examples of my work".

It's also important if you are charging for face painting and using other artist's work as an example, not not display ideas that are too far beyond your ability to paint. Kids will get the idea that your work will look just like the picture and often be disappointed if your work is not up to that skill level.
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Post by Evelyn on Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:26 pm

Hello

I am fairly new,but finally got some faces painted and am willing to let you have some copies of a few of them if you want them.. I was running into the same issue, but now have some that are fairly good but I am not able to get any photos posted here as I am not great on computer.I can mail you some though. I do not think they will look familiar as you live on the other side of the world ha ha

Anyway, email me if you want me to mail you some..
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Post by Tash on Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:41 pm

Sorry - what?
Evelyn are you offering to send people pictures to use for their boards and displays ? What if they don't paint anything like you do?

Maybe I'm confused - are you just offering them for her to copy from?

Why wouldn't someone want to display their own designs? and in the case of not having any photos of your own work - why wouldn't you just draw some up? I work with an awesome artist that has all her designs in drawings for the kids to pick from - it looks very arty and original and shows she puts thought and effort into coming up with her designs.
Just a thought.
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