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Post by Mehndi Masala on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:13 am

OK! So super new, just about a month into my latest passion, and I have discovered that I've only done 16 faces....4 of which were mine. I *do* have the neighbor's son and daughter coming over today so that will hopefully be a fun practice, but how do you guys get in your practice?? I don't have my own kids to hunt down, tie down, bribe or otherwise convince to sit for mommy, and I don't know that I can be inspired by a practice head. Perhaps I just have to LEARN to be inspired by a practice head??
I am dying to get my portfolio growing and I even have a couple of pregancy bellies lined up...I know from here that you don't want to de-value the art by giving it away, but is there a way that you can 'give it away' to build the background without damaging the market? When did you find your quickest 'learning curve'? A certain number of faces in? Did you hit a stride when you were just thrown out there?

Also...how do you deal with 'paint envy'? I'm just starting so I have 12 snaz colors. That's it. And some glitter that I use with my henna. I feel like a 5 year old in a candy store with the 'I WANT' monster in my brain, but have to wait for the extra $$ for things like split cakes and metalix.

Very curious about the answers! Thank you all again for your support!
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Post by flopsietheclown on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:58 am

Hi Kim. I think we all have paint envy, especially when new products appear or you see what others can do with something you don't have. I made a rule for myself that I only spend when a) absolutely necessary - as in I have run out, or b) I have made enough money to invest. I started with aqua crayons by Brown back in 1991. Now I have awesome brushes and paints from Snaz, Paradise, DFX, Arty Brush, Mehron, Wolfe and Tag. I think you should limit yourself to what you absolutely need. It is super easy to over spend. Think of the designs/faces you do most. Some things you'll never use. I only have one color of glitter while some use many. Check out the product reviews here. I found them very helpful. Watch some youtube videos and see what is said and watch what is done with various products before you buy. Metina has been great with all my questions about products too.
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Post by Perry Noia on Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:24 am

You can do just about all of the most popular faces with just the basic colours, so don't worry about that part. I only use the clear irridescent glitter because it works on every colour paint.

Practice line work on your arms and legs.... tear drops, swirls, dots, tiger stripes, butterfly wings, cheek art designs... none of those NEED a face. I often paint on myself... it's embarrassing how many of the sample photos on my banners are my own face. When you have a couple of willing victims, I mean volunteers, paint them a few dozen times and take lots of pictures. You can do the same face on them a couple times before moving on or do all the different designs you're looking for... whatever works for you. I can't say anything created a faster learning curve for me... it just takes a while and your designs will change over the months and years anyway.
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Post by chicneek on Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:15 pm

If I have an afternoon or a couple of hours free I set up in the bathroom in front of the mirror and come up with new designs on my own face. For inspiration I might look at contest topics, tags or just think about popular children's themes I might have a request for a party. Most of my board are also pix of me. People are impressed at what I can do with paint in just few minutes but truly amazed that I can paint on my own face. Some designs don't even look like me at all.
I don't have a practice head. If I'm designing I sometimes sketch on paper but for use of paint there is nothing like skin with all it's wrinkles, imperfections and movement.
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Post by chicneek on Wed Dec 29, 2010 12:19 pm

oh, and lots of people do 'give it away' in exchange for model releases and the chance to take pix. It's a barter that helps your business, just make sure you offer in such a way that doesn't cut into yours or someone else's business.
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:03 pm

I was very fortunate when I first started. I started painting for my company's annual christmas party, and because I volunteered to do it, the company allowed me to get whatever I thought I needed. They footed the bill for 3 years which allowed me to build up a very nice kit and try many different brands. I still get "shiny ball syndrome" oooo what's that...I want that, but I do try to keep the spending to a minimum
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Post by Mandi from Tazzie on Wed Dec 29, 2010 6:56 pm

Wow changing you lucky gal.
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Post by Psalmbook on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:02 pm

Practice the basics on your arm, legs, hubby's back if he'll let you(did I mention bald heads make for great practice? I remember your comment on him being follicly challenged).
As far as paint envy, it gets the best of us. I'm feeling it big time as some of my favorite paints are but slivers & I'm not ready to buy more..... Make a Wish List & prioritize items as must haves, kind of needs & wants & slowly attack it. It took me 5 yrs to get where I am with my kit, so take a breath & remember what it was like when you 1st started doing henna Very Happy
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Post by jenjenhana on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:29 pm

I started painting at a restaurant on kid's eat free nights for tips and pictures. And I don't care who knows it. Got a lot of practice.
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Post by Mehndi Masala on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:43 pm

Well I may just have to try more 'arm art' and perhaps the restaurant thing. How do you get a restaraunt to agree to that exactly??

Well I did actually snag the neighbor's two kids today and they have another week before they go back to class so I think my portfolio is going to be seeing ALOT of them! Here's what we did today for practice:

Ed Hardy inspired 'old skool tat' but it's funny how a teenage boy arm relaxed and then when they stand seemed to make the top of the skull 'wonky'. Still...I'm pleased with the final result

I think this was ok

This was Inspired by Shannon Fennell - Fairy Godmother!

What is it with me and blue faces?????

Inspired by Malynda Tomassian's henna book "Flight of Dragons" from Henna Caravan.

Thanks for all the 'paint envy' advice. I think all of your advice and practice today taught me that I really only need very few split/rainbow cakes for speed and I am fine with what I have. I think I did ok with just snaz today so I shouldn't complain! (but let's face it...I'm still going to pine for the shiny pretty paint cakes!!)
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Post by cc on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:50 pm

Mehndi Masala wrote:
I think this was ok

I think your designs are MORE than just "OK"! Beautiful work! flower
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Post by Perry Noia on Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:51 pm

looks great to me Very Happy
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Post by Magical Mehendi on Thu Dec 30, 2010 12:50 am

While the shiny split cakes are so appealing, you are doing amazing without them. You could always turn your current palette into split cakes.
Your work is really very beautiful.
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Post by CottonKandyClown on Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:54 am

Wow those are done with Snaz?! Nice! Makes me want to go buy a palette now! LOL

I started out offering my work free at church, charity, and family birthday gigs. There is nothing wrong with that. It gets your name out there and people(future customers) can see what you can do Wink

Just call restaurants in your area and see if they are interested. Malls and daycares are great, too!
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Post by Mehndi Masala on Thu Dec 30, 2010 8:56 am

ChangingFaceDesigns wrote: the company allowed me to get whatever I thought I needed. They footed the bill for 3 years

WOW....I love YOUR boss! LOL You are a very lucky lady and I'm green with envy! But judging by your great work, it was a good investment put to very good use!! Smile

@Magical - I had no idea you did FP! I discovered that Heather ALSO does FP and is going to the convention that I am drooling over. I am quickly learning there is ALOT of crossover from the henna world. I thought it was just Erika and Deborah! Silly me!

I did FP years ago for Sears and for a bouncy house/casino/kids' parties company, but it really did not 'take'. Met Margie during a henna meet last year and still basically ignored it (not her-she was great) as something I had no real interest in. Then took my old snaz kit to a party where many of the kids would be too young for henna and the FP person had backed out and the brick hit. Then having my job 'effected' along with 26 others at my company and having no job to go to every day meant that I started to paint, get back to learning my Hindi, take on more henna clients AND learn about my new obsession(s) (have also started to go cooking crazy and learning to cook things I never thought could be done at home ...at least by me)

Thank you for the very kind words and I remember you liked to paint so I guess that you should FP and be great at it should come as no suprise. I'm very hesitant to cut up my cakes (know how..just terrified to do it) as I have so few of them to begin with and need to keep the basics whole for base coverage. Here is my starter 'kit' that pales so horribly next to the amazing sets everyone here has:

Note the old bindi case with the foam insert removed is now the 'palette', the snaz box has the foam removed and is the catch all for the stuff you see on the kitchen towel and the cooler bag that my husband's work gave him is my 'tote'. The dollar store tackle box is where the brushes go and I don't have a brush wash basin...just the tupperware containers.

BTW - your avatar looks great...the wheat almost looks like blonde dreads if you look quickly


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Post by Paintergirl on Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:04 am

I practice at the many little league games I attend. There are many willing victims there Twisted Evil
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Post by Psalmbook on Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:07 am

Your kits pretty impressive for a starter. I love the Ed Hardy inspiration!
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Post by maggie on Thu Dec 30, 2010 9:43 am

I swear I posted on this thread yesterday but it's not here Sad Maybe I was posting at the same time of one of you guys Suspect

Kim, I am soooo impressed with your work, it is beautiful, those roses and leaves are amazing. Love the skull too!
I also started face painting for free at my place of work, I was lucky to work at daycare where there were tons of little faces willing to let me practice Smile moms were happy too.

I know is hard to make the first cut to a brand new cake but once you do it i swear you won't be able to stop lol!

I cut all my cakes in half and put both colors in one container then I get to play with the rest. I only have 2 whole cakes lefts and those are the black and white. Michaels has great containers Smile

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Post by Mehndi Masala on Fri Dec 31, 2010 12:00 am

Thanks Linda! Both for the compliment and for letting me know that maybe my little kit is like Charlie Brown's Xmas tree, "It's really a nice little kit...it just needs a little help" LOL It's not so bad...maybe even really ok!

@Paintergirl-maybe I should be looking to see if any of 'my kids' (my friends children) have any sports they may be into and see about that!

@maggie - Thank you for your wonderful compliment! It means alot to know I'm improving a bit! OK...maybe I can be convinced to actually cut a white and the red. I *do* have two whites. What are the containers at Michaels called? Or do you have a picture? What would they normally be used for - that may help me search for them. I looked online at containers and came up blank, but I think I am having a problem with size perception. It looks like 'arty cakes' seem quite small compared to the Tag ones.

Thanks to everyone for the support and advice!
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Post by Magical Mehendi on Fri Dec 31, 2010 1:01 am

Mehndi Masala wrote: It looks like 'arty cakes' seem quite small compared to the Tag ones.

seeing is sadly believing! I bought one of the DFX split cakes in person, at a convention. I KNEW how small they were.
But the darn Silly Farm site...the arty cakes are just soooooooooo preeeetttttyyyyy. And I know how you like shiney pretty things...lol...these are so enchanting and addicting and justgottahavethisoneandthatoneandooooooseethisonetoo?
An associate and I each splurged and got 2 arty cakes apiece. $40! Now when getting one, it doesn't seem such an extravagance. But 4 for $40?

These little split cakes fit a 1" brush. So they are basically 1" squared. The TAG appear to beat least 1"x2" (guesstimating from seeing Lisa Joy Young's shark/dolphin videos).
There's just not as many choices, yet these seem to be the ones you might really need to speed paint?
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Post by maggie on Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:39 am

Yayyyyyy for Kim!!!! cut them, cut them, cut them bounce
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I have a couple of tag splits, they are 1" wide and 2" long.

The container from Michaels are long and they have 7 compartments, those compartments are 1" wide by 1 2/3.
Like this one here http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/337947492-Free-Shipping-Rectangle-Clear-Beads-Display-Storage-Container-158x34x20mm-B08856X10--wholesalers.html
They also have one that has 14 compartments.

Another little container I found there and I really love is this one

Here it is finished


I just made a bunch of Pretty splits the day we had the snow storm LOL I'll take pictures and post them later.

Good luck and please show us your split/s when you are done cheers

Maggie



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Post by Mehndi Masala on Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:24 am

Magical Mehendi wrote:
But the darn Silly Farm site...the arty cakes are just soooooooooo preeeetttttyyyyy. And I know how you like shiney pretty things...lol...these are so enchanting and addicting and justgottahavethisoneandthatoneandooooooseethisonetoo?

I am STILL having this reaction and I haven't even touched one yet! I am doing a FP jam with a clown in my area that I know and she has all of the toys so I will get a chance to 'try before I buy', but I have this sinking feeling it will just make my eyeballs roll into the back of my head and send me back to my computer into a zombie like buying frenzy. "You can't miss what you don't have"...once I try...I may be doomed!

@ maggie - LOL Has anyone ever told you you are a bad influence?? Razz Wink
Thanks for showing me! Now I have a better idea of what I am looking for I may even get lucky in the dollar store. Do you find the yellowy-orange containers sides are high? does it allow for good sponge access or is it just best used for brush? Are you sick of all my questions yet?? Very Happy
I think I just dismissed cutting out of hand as it looks like you would need to cut up sooo many cakes and the investment and then cutting them up! But once I got past the panic, I'm looking at your splits, and it's not so bad because you are just recombining. I don't need 30 cakes....it looks like you used 9 or 10 (still a scary investment) but you would still have those splits and all the leftovers from the splits so it's a large output, but it would last a suprising long time...is this a correct assessment?? I think I'm pining for 3 specific splits right now. Peacock, neon rainbow, snowflake and rose...maybe a leaf one too...yeah...a leaf one. So really if I just skip the neon for now, and use my own red and white that I have, that just means I would need to get the pearl/metalic purple, gold, blue, white, silver...hmmm...it still seems to be creeping up there.
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Post by maggie on Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:47 am

LOL Kim! Yes, I have been told but in a good way though Very Happy and No, I am not tired of your questions Smile I am just glad I can help.

The yellow container I use for the brush only, you might be able to squeeze a sponge in there but I think the colors would all get mixed up.

I actually used white, m pink, m orange, m green, m yellow, m lilac and m red, 7 colors total. I still have the other halves and because you put 2 colors together they take less space.

I think is still cheaper to get the whole cakes because you not only have paint to make split you also have 1/2 of cake left.

I want the tag neons soooo bad, I think we should both buy them and split the cost and the cakes in half. cyclops
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Post by Mehndi Masala on Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:27 am

[quote="maggie"]
I want the tag neons soooo bad, I think we should both buy them and split the cost and the cakes in half. cyclops [/quote]

You may want to consider that but with someone in the USA! The shipping to Canada is stupid. I have discovered the joy of a US PO box and then driving down but it's still a 4 hour drive there and back. BUT that being said...this is not a bad idea....maybe I should try this with my clown pal!

Well I am hoping to come into some paypal funds with the release of my new book but it takes awhile for the royalties to come in so my big plan is to save up the $ into paypal, order like crazy and have it sent to my border depot and pick up when I land from teaching henna in Rhode Island. I am taking the plane from Grand Forks, so when I land after my trip, I can pick up my stuff on the way back home and because I was in the USA for 4 days, I won't have to pay duty. AND I won't have to fly with it. Of course....it means I can't buy squat until the end of March! But you know what they say....good things come to those who wait!!!!
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Post by maggie on Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:49 pm

Oh man!!!! pale I didn't realize you were in Canada, bummer!
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