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Post by AllieDawn on Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:00 pm

I just booked a gig for an elementary school fundraiser! YAY! It's a 3 hour event and I'll be doing PPF. Originally I thought I could do $4 and $6 designs. We are going to split my money 50/50 with the school. But should I just offer some $2 designs as well? or is that too much. I'm guessing I need to make a big board with designs that I'll do for each $$amount. Is that what works best??
here is the link for the event: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/event.php?eid=194166820598494

TIA for suggestions. I want this to run smoothly with no confusion for those in line.
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:32 pm

Hurray for the gig, but if I may say taking/offering (not sure which side initiated this) 50% of your take is really unheard of. I have done several events for my kids school and have never offered up more than 20%. Are there other vendors/service providers at this event, and are they all being asked to give half of their take???

Are you looking at this event as a loss-leader, meaning you will take the hit in exchange of getting exposure for future gigs?
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Post by AngieAnders on Fri Jan 28, 2011 10:40 pm

I think you could go $5 and $7 or even $5 and $10. Bingo is $5 and $10, and food is $5, so your prices would be right in line. I would definitely not lower anything to $2. If you have trouble forming a line, you could always offer people a "sale" price until things get going. It's easier to lower prices than to raise them.

You can make two posters for your two different prices, and attach designs to each one accordingly for people to choose from. You may also want to advertise that 50% of the money made is going back to the school. Be sure and set out a tip jar with a few dollar bills already in it. Good luck! Very Happy
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Post by Bec on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:38 am

When I do ppf I have $5 and $8 faces. And make sure you have a sign saying that 50% is going to the school so people will be even more willing to pay.

I've also done it where the school will pay my rates and then put a tip bucket out for donations to the school. That way we both win. Im not getting screwed out of money and they are still getting donations.
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Post by Bec on Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:40 am

As far as your board, with ppf I have one of those science project boards. I have. Clear line down the middle and $5 on one side and $8 on the other clearly marked.
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Post by Terina on Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:06 am

Just general marketing talk here. There is a general rule with fundraisers that anything priced at $5 tends to sell better. It is not too expensive so people seem to be willing to buy almost anything at $5. I agree about pricing at $5 and $10. I would not go lower since you are splitting it 50/50. Good luck, it sounds great!
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Post by AllieDawn on Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:30 am

ChangingFaceDesigns wrote:Hurray for the gig, but if I may say taking/offering (not sure which side initiated this) 50% of your take is really unheard of. I have done several events for my kids school and have never offered up more than 20%. Are there other vendors/service providers at this event, and are they all being asked to give half of their take???

Are you looking at this event as a loss-leader, meaning you will take the hit in exchange of getting exposure for future gigs?
THANKS EVERYONE for your suggestions and comments Smile
ChangingFaceDeisgns-yes, I offered the 50%. this will be GREAT advertising for me!! The school is close to my area and with all the parents there I'll get really good exposure! And for the 3 hours, I figure $100 (rough estimate of course) Is good enough for me to take home. I'd be happy with that since it will include all the "free advertising". I will be the only face painter.
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Post by AllieDawn on Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:36 am

IDK how to "quote" more than one person on here, but I love the TIP JAR idea, ....and the sign about the shared profits. I think $5 and $8 sounds like a fair price. I'll look for the science fair board.
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Post by Perry Noia on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:44 am

$5 and $8 is my usual pricing and I always offer 50% for charities... I can't personally afford to donate to charities, so it's my way of donating. You could ask for a donation receipt for your income taxes...

My sign generally shows my prices, then "50% of the money collected from face painting today will be donated to XYZ. Thank you for your support!"
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Post by Metina on Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:54 am

Make sure you put a couple of $5s in the tip jar too and not just ones or ones is all your are going to get. Sometimes people just don't know what to do and they will "follow" the lead of what has been done before.

I also agree not to do lower pricing or all the leads that you generate are going to want lower pricing.

I do wish you lots of luck with the leads, but I can guarantee that you will get lots of other people wanting you to work their fundraiser, church event and such and offer them a deal. I get way more of this than full paying jobs at such events. I just want you to be ready for the questions you will get.

Make sure you have your "special connection" to the school ready if you aren't willing to do this for all so they will understand and possible hire you instead.

This may vary for everyone, but I want to share with you my take on doing school, church, library, mall, charity events. These things are great and we should ALL do them for practice and to give back to the community. But we all need to think how these things are advertised. Basically "A FREE event for you to have fun with your kids" These are very low cost in general to the public if at all and thus it attracts a crowd that doesn't have a lot of discretionary funds to do things. So IMHO, they don't have the funds to hire a face painter at $80-100 per hour.

I have gotten way more jobs at events where I was being paid and people had to pay top dollar to come to the event. Animal Park, Minor League Base Ball Games, Kids birthday parites, University Homecoming Games and such. These people have the money or are friends with people who have money. With the kids parties, I know you don't pay to get in, but generally people are around the same social class as their friends, so you can expect that they may be able to hire a face painter.

I know I have rambled and YES situations do vary, but for me in my 4 years, I have found the above to be the case. I just wish I would have realized this in the begining, but sometimes we do have to experience this for ourselves also to really understand.

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Post by Terina on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:12 am

I have gotten way more jobs at events where I was being paid and people had to pay top dollar to come to the event. Animal Park, Minor League Base Ball Games, Kids birthday parites, University Homecoming Games and such. These people have the money or are friends with people who have money. With the kids parties, I know you don't pay to get in, but generally people are around the same social class as their friends, so you can expect that they may be able to hire a face painter.

I just want to add that Metina is very accurate on this aspect. The social class of the people attending the parties or events very much come into play. It is something in people's minds that you are worth more. We raised some of our prices this year and I have already had more bookings. Maybe think of having a flyer with what a promotional price for a birthday party would be. Book party by such and such date and save $$$. Or maybe promotional price good for students at (school name) Summer birthday blowout and whatever price you want to get.
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Post by AllieDawn on Sun Jan 30, 2011 10:06 pm

Great suggestion for the tip jar Metina! And yes, I agree on the "social class" of different events. It always seems to work that way. This event is different than usual fortunately, because it's SPECIFICALLY a fundraiser. Which means these people come to spend money on these things for the school. So that's good for me!

Terina-thanks for mentioning promo fliers! I didn't think about that either! You ladies are just FULL of great ideas and help. I really appreciate it!
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