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Post by Metina on Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:43 am

The more I work, I am realizing that the more business you act, the more business you get as well as respect. It is not so much about having tons of paint or supplies, but good sinage, work acumen, knowing your rates and sticking to them and not acting desperate for work. Having your business name clearly displayed with your website and phone number further stresses that you are a business and not a volunteer.

I am currently having some polo shirts, visors and aprons made as well. 2 of each embrodiered for only $125.

I know for many, this is all common sense, but I think it is all still worth saying for the newbies. Get yourself some basic colors about 4 brushes and two glitters and then work on your business supplies like website, banners, signage, uniform, business cards and practice like crazy. Try not to get sucked into the pit that so many of us do. Having 50 colors of paint and 20 glitters, does not make you a great painter. Resist the urge and the paint will come!

Also, remember to "practice" line work with the crappy colors you end up with. I can't tell you how much Wolfe white and black I wasted on practice when Snaz peach was sitting around(and still is).

NEVER work for free. I know we all need practice and feel like we have to. But at least get advertising consideration. Ad on their website, signage at there location. Something. Like Shannon says, even if you have only been doing this for only a month, you are still offering a value and no one should work for free.

If you have gotten a request and want to have a great response that will net you the most value, post it to the board.

I am sure you will get a lot of help!

Also, know when to set limits. I recently negotiated a $500 sponsorship package out of a group with "no budget." For three hours of painting my logo is going on their newsletter, t-shirt, website(with link) and signage along their walking paths and an opportunity to put something in the goodie bag. I made sure to include my website in the logo I sent over. But then they also wanted me to solicit a donation from the people I painted. I said no. They had already grilled me about how fast I can paint and I just told them that there is no way I can paint at the speed they require and solict and be responsible for donations. They are now sending a "volunteer" to handle the crowd and donations.

I know I rambled, but I feel pretty good about things that have happened over the last week and I just wanted to share.

-Metina

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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by AngieAnders on Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:33 pm

Great stuff Metina! I agree. First impressions are huge, and appearing professional is half of the business. We need to have the skills, but often what gives us the edge over other competition is LOOKING PROFESSIONAL. I have a black apron with my business name embroidered on it that I always wear with slacks or jeans and a collared shirt. That all by itself sets me apart from hobbyists. I have nice looking business cards, customized with my designs on them. I have banners custom made with graphics of my work. I've put a lot of work into my website. I send out custom printed thank you notes after doing parties. All of these things widen the gap between myself and any other possible competition.
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Post by Perry Noia on Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:12 pm

So true that no matter how new you are, you shouldn't work for free... the new kid at McDonald's doesn't work for free and he didn't buy his own materials either.

I have my own "uniform" in a sense which I feel is very important. My logo is a cartoon picture of me, so I'm definitely wearing my logo Wink My dad just made me a large A-frame sign board that I painted my logo and name onto which I will be using to write the pay per face rates or courtesy of type statement mentioned in another thread. I have some home made poles to hold my "rope" for where to line up (which is a piece of yarn with sample photos laminated and strung along its length). I am doing my best to keep everything looking very sanitary and professional in my workspace and have a printout laminated copy of the snazaroo safety information pages which I have had parents comment that they liked seeing that there. (wow that was a terrible run on sentence...)
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Post by Michelle Heffner on Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:05 pm

Hi Metina!

Can you share your source for the embroidered pieces? And let us know how the quality is when you receive them!

Thank you Smile

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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by Metina on Sun Apr 26, 2009 8:21 am

Hiya,

My source was in Winchester, VA and it is www.signetscreen.com. My sales guys was David.

I would say on a scale of 1-10, my happiness would be about a 7. I was trying to find a local source for things that wouldn't have a huge digitizing fee or minimum order. The fee was only $40 and they will keep the file for two years and can size down or up 10% with no additional fee. The clothing prices were reasonable, and they charged $6-7 additional for each item to be embrodiered.

I ordered two visors(around $11 each), two polos(around $18 each and two aprons(around $14 each). The embrodiery looked good on the apron and polo, though the messed up one of the aprons and gave it to me for free. On the visor it looked not so good, they offered no discount and only an explaination as to why it didn't look so good. Although it would have been nice to know ahead of time, they looked fine from a distance.

Also, they will embrodier your own items for $10 each.

They also offer all kinds of signage, car wraps, banners and such and look to have a decent shop and lots of capibilities.

I plan to do another project with them and will let you know if this is a better or worse experience.

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Post by Sherry on Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:48 am

I recently had some shirts made up with my company name and information. We get to try them out this weekend at a big event we're doing. I'm so excited and will now have to get a new picture of me with my new shirt for my website.

They gave me a discount because his daughter works with me, so I don't know what their normal prices would be, but I received 20 shirts with the sleeve, back and front left chest embroidered for $128.40.

It's called "The Local Artist". He's based out of Jacksonville, FL and his number is 904-389-7600 if anyone is interested.
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Post by Metina on Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:35 am

That is a fabulous price. What type of shirt was it. Mine was a polo. Make sure you share pics and his website.

Maybe he can offer a "discount" to anyone you refer. I am looking for a really great vendor to get some shirts made for the forum. WINK!

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Post by Sherry on Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:06 pm

I'll ask about the discount and try to post pictures of the shirts I got when I get a chance. The shirts I bought are preshrunk Gildan tees.
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Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Sun May 03, 2009 9:35 pm

Queensboro has great prices on shirts hats and more. They only have 4 piece min.( mix and match) If you sign up for there email list they send you specials all the time. Like $6.95 printed tees.
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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by Metina on Mon May 04, 2009 7:45 am

Do you have a web address for these guys? Thanks!

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Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Mon May 04, 2009 8:35 am

http://www.queensboro.com/index.html
Dont let some of the prices scare you off, sign up for their email specials and they will send you emails with really good deals (right now thay have $9.95 polos with logo).
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Post by Metina on Mon May 04, 2009 9:34 am

There website is very impressive along with their prices. Have you ordered from them? What is the quality of the embroderiey, digital printing and shirts?

Thanks for the tip!

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Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Mon May 04, 2009 9:51 am

The quality is Excellent! I have ordered from them several times. They did mess up once and they fixed immeditly and I got to keep the shirts that were messed up (which all it was that the colors were wrong). I got some shirts from Vista print once and difference is huge. They dont use cheap materials (even on the value tees). I am getting ready to place another order with my new logo.
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Post by Metina on Mon May 04, 2009 9:58 am

You are right about Vista. I ordered their free t shirt once. The old saying "you get what you pay for" really was the case!

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Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Mon May 04, 2009 6:55 pm

I just placed my order with Queensboro, I got an Apron, 4 hats, 2 Tshirts, and a Totebag all embroidered with my logo for $52.20 including shipping!
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Post by Heather Timmons on Tue May 05, 2009 11:08 pm

Ditto on Queensboro. They helped set up the logo for free...and are shipping my stuff pretty soon. I will take pics of the items when they come.

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printing or embroidery

Post by avigailmilder on Wed May 06, 2009 12:19 am

very interesting!

regarding the Queensboro company - are you ladies having the items printed or embroidered?
and how wouldl you rate each method... My logo has (2) colors.
Seems that embroidery is less expensive.

thanks!

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quick of topic --- how do you get a signature to show at the end of the post?

Post by avigailmilder on Wed May 06, 2009 12:21 am

quick of topic --- how do you get a signature to show at the end of the post?
i didn't see any such option on the member info page...

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Post by AngieAnders on Wed May 06, 2009 12:24 am

Avigail, you would do that in "profile" on the top menu bar. Then click "signature" at on the lower menu bar for your profile.
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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Wed May 06, 2009 9:05 am

Queensboro does both printing and embroidery. For more of a professional look go with the embroidery( Private parties). The printing is great too. Its more everyday wear, like when I do fairs and festivals. They have different sales everyday so watch your emails.
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Post by Heather Timmons on Wed May 06, 2009 10:15 pm

I am going 'embroidery'. I have red embroidery on black items....black embroidery on red items....purple embroidery on pink and pink embroidery on purple or lavendar items.

I got the sweater top (like when working inside and it's air conditioned or meeting with clients.) I got v-neck 3/4 sleeve and short sleeve t-shirts and a couple sun visors.

I also found a sweet looking pop up shelter/gazebo thing on Ebay. It's black with red flames (VERY eye catching). I'm going to make a black table cover (like Metina suggests) and get some black golf towels and have them embroiderd with my logo in red (so no one walks off with them). Very Happy

Here are some pics of the Shelter:


You can leave the sides on or off. It has two sides with 'windows' and two with door zippers. I like the 3 sided look I think for using as a vendor set up. It is fully connected and you set it up 'pop up' style. It only weighs 50 pounds and comes with it's own carry bag. So I should be able to set it up myself. I saw someone carried 4 bricks with them and zip ties and used them to weigh down the legs...great idea and much cheaper than buying the plastic ones designed to do that.

I might actually try to get a vendor spot for this year's Annual Fourth of July Fireworks Parade. Over 10,000 visitors to our little town every year for this event. Booth spot is 10x15 and only $135. It's PPF, but TONS of foot traffic and kids galore! The tent is 10x10 so it'll fit just right and the parade is just down the street from me!

I made a really simple logo, but figure with the 3-D effect of the embroidery it will stand out on a one color shirt:

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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by avigailmilder on Wed May 06, 2009 11:01 pm

heather, your set up is going to look might FINE!
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Re: Some business experience to share!

Post by kyfaceandbodyart on Thu May 07, 2009 8:53 am

Looks Great! I want a canopy like yours, It will really stand out! Cute Logo too.
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That will be a sweet set-up!

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Post by AngieAnders on Thu May 07, 2009 12:29 pm

I love the cat logo! Too cute!
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