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Post by Kristal on Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:28 pm

Thoughts on this brand? I know of it, haven't used it, and for the life of me can't remember what the general consensus of it is!
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Post by wmeventservices on Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:56 pm

I'd love to know as well!
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Post by Psalmbook on Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:10 pm

Junk. They sell it at our local costume shop. It's just awful!
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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky on Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:33 pm

I have the fantasy shimmer powder from graftobian in a few colors (black, white, pink, and purple) and love it. Haven't tried the paint though.

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Post by Kristal on Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:31 am

Hmmm. I heard that there's a free workshop being done by Graftobian nearby and I was thinking about going because, hey, it's free! AND a Monday.

I did do a quick search and those Disguise Stix came up - I vaguely remember seeing them when I used to work on cruise ships and I remember not being impressed (this is when I wasn't even using good makeup, myself), but thought that maybe there's another non stick format?

I'm thinking I'll go anyway, just to see...
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Post by LillyW on Wed Apr 13, 2011 1:56 am

I love their gold and silver mixing liquid powders. I can't tell the difference between that and Mehron.

I also like their Pros Aide to put on gems.

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Post by Kristal on Wed Apr 13, 2011 2:17 am

Good to know - thanks Lilly!
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Post by Psalmbook on Wed Apr 13, 2011 7:56 am

I'm just talking the paints & the crayons. There's better stuff out there. I've not tried the powders, etc.
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Post by Perry Noia on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:11 am

I didn't know they made face paints... I use their clown white and I like it. It's thicker than the mehron clown white so it covers my nasty French eyebrows better. Lol
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Post by Noella on Wed Apr 13, 2011 10:59 am

I've never got into Graftobian, but I just looked through their catalog quickly and wow what a variety of products they have. I've heard positive things about the company in general and not had any problems with their product that I did use. Their face painting formula is available in "dishes", but they also have glitters, powders, latex, lots of things useful and interesting. If it doesn't cost you (in money or time you should be elsewhere), it sounds ideal to go and see.....
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Post by Tilly - Formerly Punky on Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:58 am

The wolfe brothers did a steb by step book with the Graftobian Disguise sticks...

http://www.graftobian.com/commerce/product.jsp?prodId=403
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Post by tanyamaldo119 on Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:54 pm

I have been looking into getting their Special FX kit to play around with. I always wanted to make monsters and zombies and the show Face Off made me want to try it even more.
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Re: Graftobian

Post by tinyfairies6768 on Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:44 pm

The shimmer powders are amazing! One of my favorite products to use!
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Re: Graftobian

Post by leapinglizards on Fri Aug 05, 2011 10:44 pm

Thei hibred airbrush makeup is THE best! Also, their professional moisturizers are amazing for day to day use.

If any of you remember Bob Kelly Cosmetics from theatre, their chemist is Bob kelly's former chemist. Good products and decent price.

The design sticks.... WELL.... if I needed something for kids, or to sell or use for a bunch of folks at a football game. It is an interesting product, but probably not what many want or are used to.... It is soap based so washes out of most things, though it can stain skin oddly enough.

Most of their other products are recommended.

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Post by Guest on Fri Aug 05, 2011 11:19 pm

I've used their coloured latex... good product. And spirit gum - same as any others but less expensive. Also translucent setting powder, some brushes and a few other items. All decent quality and good value.

I did try their airbrush make-up - not terribly pleased. Several of the colours went "off" before I could use them - yellow and some flesh tones. Ended up disposing of most of it. Not happy about that as it was a very expensive purchase.

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Post by leapinglizards on Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:53 am

The yellow used to have a short shelf life, but I notice there is no mention of those any more, so not sure if it changed. I always wondered shannon, what happened when it went "off"? Clumpy? Smells? Changed color?

Yellow is usually a somewhat volatile pigment... I wonder what made it more delicate.

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:44 am

All of the above... it reaked, was separating and lost some of its brightness.

I bought it quite a few years ago... so it was when yellow had a short shelf life BUT NO ONE TOLD ME! So I was not happy.

I had been using Dinair for years and years and never had an issue with any of it going "off"... so was very annoyed with the Graftobian. I should only have ordered enough to try rather than restocking BUT when I do a show I need LOTS to get through a run... used SOME of the flesh tones then had to toss as there was a long period between uses and by then things were going bad...

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Post by leapinglizards on Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:08 pm

Shannon, Is Dinair a hybrid, how does it hold up to sweat?

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Post by Guest on Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:21 pm

Dinar is pure water based. Never had any trouble with it. I didn't face paint or do tatts with it, purely for theatre use and no probs with sweating. It held up very well.

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Post by wanderingbrush on Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:00 pm

Hello Everyone.

I've been searching online for days now for real person feedback on two brands of airbrush face and body paint and am very hungry for feedback!!
I'm not finding more than a few threads. And of course time is running out! Would anyone be able to help rate two different brands of airbrush paint? It seems that most on this forum are for Graftobian FX Aire, but very few have experience with both that brand and Wolfe Eflow, (I counted 2? and both have opposite experiences to boot!). If anyone has experience with both, then I would most especially appreciate their feedback. There is a huge $10 price difference per bottle from my supplier, the Eflow being much cheaper, so I'd really like to know if one is that much better than the other. I'm very new to airbrushing, and do not live anywhere near any other face and body painters, so I can not travel to demonstrations (yet). my only life line for info is the internet. (but I look forward to traveling the world and meeting you all in good time!)

The two brands
A. Graftobian F/X Aire (hybrid)
B. Wolfe Eflow (hybrid)

I'm looking to rate the paints from 1-10 on the following qualities
1. Vibrancy/Brightness of Colour/Colour range
2. Ease of use (clogging etc)
3. Ease of removal
4. How do they feel on (are models appreciative of one brand over another)
5. General overall appreciation (in comparison to all face and body airbrush paints you may have experience with).

Any other personal observations that experience brings to mind are of course more than welcome.

We have a wide range of water based face paints that we use with brush and sponge and so this paint will be used more to augment hand painting, especially for full body painting art (including the face) as oppossed to tattoo or stencil face painting. These models will be walking around the city, showcasing products at special events, or they will be in full day photo shoots (etc).

So far my experience has led me to particularly like the Wolfe water based face paint cakes for their durability, opaque colour and coverage, and so I am very keen on this brand. However I am disapointed to discover that they do not carry the neons into the airbrush hybrid line. Graftobian, so far I only have experience with their powder eye shadows, (I have a case of about 50), an excellent product, however the screw on clear containers are the worst, most time consuming and frustrating container I have ever worked with, so I am not impressed with Graftobian's attention to quality so far in that one respect.

I can of course order other brands, just not through my supplier, and so I would not reap the same savings. That said, I am also looking for the best, most extensive range of neon airbrush face and body paints in the following colours (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, violet, pink, white and the invisible one that shows under uv as white). Would anyone be able to offer advice on neon airbrush paints? For example, I can easily layer my pink kryolan neon cake make up with wolfe purple, could I do the same with different airbrush make-up. It seems to me from the threads that I've been reading, that airbrush make up is insanely Finiky stuff.

Super apprecaiate all of your help and advise, you've all done a wonderful job on this forum, keep up the great work!

Have a creative day!
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Re: Graftobian

Post by leapinglizards on Wed Feb 27, 2013 11:51 pm

1 - 10 10 being BEST

E flow hybrid:
1. Vibrancy/Brightness of Colour/Colour range 2
2. Ease of use (clogging etc) 6
3. Ease of removal 6
4. How do they feel on 6
5. General overall appreciation 4

Graftobian

1. Vibrancy/Brightness of Colour/Colour range 10
2. Ease of use 10
3. Ease of removal 8
4. How do they feel on 8
5. General overall appreciation 9

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Post by Sweet Loretta on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:13 pm

Dylan I responded to your private inquiry and let me repsond here so others may benefit. I like both Graftobian and Wolfe. Of course I like EBA and ProAiir. I like ABA and Airstream. I like LUX. They are all good and all have pros and cons.

I value what an experienced artist says to use or try. If more people listed they could save a lot of time, effort and money. But on some thing people must do tests. Airbrush makeup I believe is one of those areas.

Airbrushing makeup is dependent upon several factors the top being user technique, climate and environment. How I spray after 30 years of airbrushing will be quite different than how you spray. New users tend to lay down more makeup, experienced users tend to go lighter. New users tend to not layer or not as much as experienced users. This changes how the makeup feels and reacts, it changes the color, vibrancy and ease of removal. How my makeup lets say Wolfe Eflow reacts in my dry climate may vary in how it reacts in your cooler perhasps more moist climate. How my makeup reacts inside in a cold club may differ than a day in a warm community center...... I have even found that some makeup acts different is a top feed as opposed to bottom feed brush.

And some airbrush makeup is good for face painting, some best for body painting and some is good at both.

Maybe a favorite makeup becomes the one you can afford, or get quickly not reply on shipping distance, maybe it is because they have one or two colors you love, or maybe you use a few brands.

If you want to know what is best for you you have to buy makeup and test it.

Yes, I have my favorites. I love Kryolan Airstream for it ease of flow and layering ability. I love European Body Art VIBE for the vibrant color and flow. I love both becasue I can get them in my hands fast. I am using the new ProAiir Hybrid and will give a hard run this year, so far I am very happy with the colors and I can get it fast. Folks will like its price.

If I were to have to choose between Graftobian and Wolfe Eflow for body painting I would choose Graftobian based on the wide selection of color choices.



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Post by Sweet Loretta on Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:22 pm

Now my 2 cents on the actual thread topic - Graftobian. It clearly is not junk, as it is considered one of the top makeups in the US. It may not be a face painters cake makeup choice, but it makes and carries far more product as others have noted. Like most makeup brands they have things to pick and choose through.

Graftobian it a super top favorite with Haunters. And many makeup artists love their foundations. So clearly people like their stuff.

For the top makeup companies shimmer powder is shimmer powder, it comes to color selection and Graftobian has some colors I love. The metallic powder yes quite like Mehron's, after all it's just metallic powder. With the FXAiir there are colors in the airbrush makeup that no other company makes, and are great fx colors.

As for ProsAide - does not matter who's name is on it - it is ProsAide made only by one company and private labeled by many.

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Post by Outinapout on Mon Jun 23, 2014 11:04 am

Glad you mentioned Graftobian's foundation, SL. I'm new to face painting, but have been a pro makeup artist for almost 20 years.

Graftobian's HD Foundation is an absolute favorite of mine: it's got beautiful coverage, ease of use, and most of all, excellent color range.

I am nearly albino-pale (literally, my wedding photog has albinism & I compared!) and were it not for Graftobian, I'd be stuck custom blending my daily makeup!

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