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Post by elantaura on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:50 pm

I have two whites and blacks in use now on long gigs as they get too gooey. I swap over and pack into a my bag next to my (frozen) drink every hour or so depending on paint consistancy. If i have trouble with another colour I do it with that too. My husband, always grabs the paint pallettes and puts them strait in the fridge when I get home. while I unpack other stuff.
I never leave paint in the car, as cars are on average 10c hotter than outside.
in australia that can mean 42c outside 52c in the car glycerine Melts in the 40c to 60c range depending on how much water is in it. and it is an astringet- meaning it draws water from the environment around it. It is a problem with handmade soap as they can liquify due to these two factors. ie draw water them heat and melt.

I never put paints in the bathroom or laundry to dry for this reason, and after fridge they get the fan to dry
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Post by Metina on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:03 pm

It was def. the heat. What you have to understand it that cars act essentially as a solar oven when parked in the sun over time-no matter what the temp outside. Solar ovens can get up to 400 degrees even in the winter. Do you have black interior? That makes it even worse.

Old cars can be used to dehydrate fruits so they get darn hot.

I have a solar oven and I can bake bread in it, so imagine what hot cars due to your paints. I will make this its own post so this doesn't happen to anyone else.

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Post by Manja on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:14 pm

Hard lesson learned, but am picking up a lot of great random tips here! Drying fruit in the car?! What a neat idea! Dried fruit, plus car freshener. LOL
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Post by Metina on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:29 pm

If you want to post some pics of your poor paint, i'll offer you a coupon to replace what you can. I know you said they were mostly ABC cakes, but I am willing to help a sister out!

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Post by Manja on Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:42 pm

Metina,

That is so generous an offer, but really ~ it was my own fault. I plan on putting in an order soon, but I do not have any expectations of anyone else assuming responsibility for my mistake. It blesses me that you even offered! THANK YOU.

I was so upset at the time, I only took a couple of pics to send from my phone to my team members. I wasn't even thinking about taking pics of all the melted paints to show to others - I was more concerned at the time just showing my empoloyees what happened, to give them a heads-up, know what I mean? Meanwhile I cleaned everything up pronto and emptied the really bad containers and swiftly made new split cakes from paint I have on hand.

Here's the one that shows the liquified state some of them were in - the rainbow cake was totally unrecognizable. Wish I'd taken more pics.



And this one shows how some got really gooey - a couple of them actually continued to get more liquid after this pic. Which was weird.



Again - wish I would've taken more pics. Just didn't occur to me to document it all. I've never been good about taking pics. Most of my fp work never gets photographed & my kids have all grown up with minimum pictures to record their history. Crying or Very sad

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Post by Metina on Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:45 pm

OMG! PM me if you'd like to take me up on my offer!

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Post by Guest on Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:12 am

OMG! Manja,

i was so busy trying to duplicate your experience...i didn't even think about offering to replace them!

please pm me the names of the Arty Brush Cakes. and your address, and i'll gladly replace them!

ttfn,

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Post by Manja on Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:41 pm

Metina & Rebecca ~

My fault, my loss. I have no expectations of anyone taking responsibility for my learning experience. You are both so generous in offering! I appreciate that and it will not be forgotten.

Bless you,
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Post by Manja on Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:43 pm

PS - I pm'd you both, but the messages are sitting in my OUTBOX and they haven't yet been "sent".
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Post by Astrid on Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:57 pm

Sorry for your meltdown!
Have you had any trouble since? I live in a hot and humid climate and want to make sure that doesn't happen to me.
Thanks for any info,
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Post by Mika's Creations2 on Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:37 pm

This scares the crap out of me. I would just cry my eyes out if this happened to my paints. Crying or Very sad
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Post by mamakatrien on Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:56 pm

Thank you for warning us manja...
I now know to take care when transporting my paints in the car!
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Post by facesbybelle on Fri Aug 31, 2012 12:41 am

So is it ok to keep the paints in the fridge on really hot days over night? I have mostly Tag and Snaz, the temp has been 90 and higher so sometimes the paints are gooey.
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Post by Tineke on Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:31 am

i must say my kit travels a whole week with me, and really stays in the car a lot... haven't had this happen so far, but Belgium isn't that hot (even in summer)...
I do have my white and black turn to goo after a while, but then I just switch pots, untill the goo has turned solid again
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Post by Luvs to paint on Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:17 am

yikes.. never had split cakes melt totally like that. i have fab silver in my kit with all the lids off and it doesn't affect my other paints, lol. I hate storing my notebook kits "sideways" in the bottom of my fatmax before/after a gig. I also hate storing all my paints in those notebooks to "face" each other when the case is closed (but I am guilty). Making me rethink my setup as I type, lol.
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Post by mamakatrien on Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:34 pm

I am always storing everything "flat". I think i'll start loking for a tub of those silica crystals though, might be worth to dry out your paint to prevent these accidents.
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Post by Manja on Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:30 am

After this experience I did not want to take any chances, so I have been using a cooler with ice packs in it anytime I transport my paints in the car, even for short distances if it is hot out. One little pit stop at a store with the car locked up can heat up really fast, so I just don't risk traveling without my paints staying cool. Haven't had a problem with them melting since I started doing this but BEWARE.... do not sit your cases sideways on a bag of ice for long trips. As the ice melts it turns to water and the water will seep in. Duh! That was another lesson learned the hard way. So yeah - I've learned to use ice packs, not bagged ice.
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Post by TheGildedCat on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:23 pm

Hi Manja,

I had a similar event a few months ago using brand new TAG and Wolfe. I'm pretty sure I didn't leave it in the car, and the rest of my paints were fine. Only the brand new Wolfe neon magenta and TAG yellow were affected. They turned to slimey goo. I wonder if there was a bad batch out there with a different ratio of waxes or something like that. It was really odd and the paint has since hardened up but it's not the same. =(
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