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Post by paintingpixies on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:01 pm

At what point did you consider yourself a pro? I haven't had any training and I have no certification. Not even sure if there is any classes out there for Face painting. I have been Face painting for about a month now. I'm not comfortable telling people I'm a professional. Am I being too conservative?
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Post by HazyDaze on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:47 pm

I think you're a professional once you start getting paid to face paint. Just my opinion, though~ I'm not really sure where the line is either.
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Post by paintingpixies on Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:57 pm

Sounds good to me Very Happy
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Post by Manabanana on Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:23 pm

Your 1st penny for painting..... then the magic Fairy Facepaint Fairy announces you as a Pro.

I'm pretty sure there is alot of glitter involved. Very Happy
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Post by HazyDaze on Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:42 pm

Oooooh, glitter!! geek
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Re: becoming a pro

Post by MonsterKat on Mon Oct 24, 2011 2:48 pm

I feel the same way, I don't feel like I have enough knowledge or experience to call myself 'pro'...but since I HAVE been paid, I don't know what eles I would call myself? Maybe to the unassuming public I would say 'professional' but not to fellow facepainters Razz
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Post by artyfacesbyluz on Mon Oct 24, 2011 3:28 pm

when I started I did 3 big festivals charging per face and painting with Palmer face paint, I didn't feel like a pro back there, I think professional paint + job fee make you a pro.
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Post by a face painting mom on Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:04 pm

Your avitar says "pro" to me!

Mana said it all...you have been sprinked with the glitter and you are now professional. Go forth, buy insurance, use real face paint, and charge for thy face painting= professional
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Post by Miss Ronnie on Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:07 pm

Like I say on another thread on here somewhere... "I'm a professional face painter...my business card says I am..."
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Post by paintingpixies on Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:42 pm

Thank you all so much!! I have the pro paints and have done a few big gigs. And LOVE glitter and use lots of it Laughing but not sure where to start with insurance, I'll look into that. This forum is amazing <3
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Post by a face painting mom on Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:28 pm

The Clown organizations offer it, and you can also get it through your homeowners insurance. It will give you the protection you need, and it says "I am a profesional who protects my clients..."
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Re: becoming a pro

Post by l!zzie on Tue Oct 25, 2011 7:31 am

This confuses me a lot...
I have a nice job which I love (primary school). FP is " just" my hobby (snort). But I keep getting questions for FP and just today a phonecall for a belly paint, and they want to pay me for it.
What to do now? I'm not FP enough to make a living with!! I know you can earn a specified amount of money before you' ll have to pay taxes for it. Think I'll have to look that up. Pffff... Question
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Post by AngieAnders on Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:44 am

I think that it's the mentality mostly. If you run your facepainting like a business, you're a pro. If you take paying jobs on a semi-regular basis, you're a pro. Even if you don't FEEL like a pro, it's important to ACT like one, and it all falls in place from there. Smile People will respond to your confidence in yourself and your business, so when they ask if you are a pro, tell them yes!
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Re: becoming a pro

Post by elantaura on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:04 pm

I agree with everything said so far.
But understand your problem, I have never had a class (first workshop ever soon) and it is hard to get your mindset to swich gears.
what Angie said is so true. I had to alter my mindset about hobby based, and gear it up to business. I feel I am professional as I conduct myself like one, run it as a business, use professional products, am insured, I get paid.
I found I doubted myself as you look at people around and feel wow they are so much better and it is hard to think of your self as a pro when you see them, and the class factor messes with my head too.
But if you run it professionally, get paid, do the right things, reguardless of skill level, time doing it etc, you are one.
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Post by skjfunny on Tue Oct 25, 2011 5:01 pm

The last two posts hit it on the head, but let me add...there are people that have been painting for years, are accomplished arts...but are not professional face painters. I firmly believe a true pro is open and always growing and striving to be better at the craft. This is far more important than artistic ability.
Classes do not make you a pro, only better at what you do. Sue is correct it is the head that is involved, your attitude, and conduct, not necessarily what you get paid. Any one can print up a "certification" and most people can get lucky enough to get at least one paid gig. I find you don't have to say you're a pro...it SHOWS.
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Post by Lady Jayde on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:49 am

To me, being a "Pro" is a mindset and and an impression.
There are people out there who have been painting kids with acrylics for money for years. They aren't pros in my book becauase they've chosen to disregard one of the most important rules of face painting: making the experience, a safe and fun experience for the child/client. Its for that reason that sometimes, earning a fee isn't all it takes to be a true professional.

Your PRO status depends on you as much as whether you earn money doing it. Are you willing to invest in your 'business'? Are you taking steps to get insured? Do you have a policy on hygiene standards? The list goes on and on. I know many painters who only paint on the weekends, but run their businesses like a business and some who use their painting revenue as a primary source of income who haven't the business sense of a cactus.

Yes, designs and training can help, but in an internal, confidence bolstering way. Your customers will determine your Pro status by the package that you present to them and whether or not you treat your painting as a business or a hobby.
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Re: becoming a pro

Post by Sweet Loretta on Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:11 pm

One becomes a professional when they set themselves up a such. It is more than simply painting well and getting paid.

Professionals are licensed, insured, use proper products, supplies, act professionally with ethical standards, have a professional set-up, understand the protocals in the industry (understand how to work as a professional entertainers), act with professional conduct and attitude. And looks to industry standards in becoming trained and skilled.

Certainly this grows and one becomes more and more professional. But certainly too when one starts at a level where they are striving to be "professional" (and I mean really trying! to do it properly) they can only become better.



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Re: becoming a pro

Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:35 pm

It is not accurate to say that just because you have been paid you are a "professional" There's much more to it than that. I mean bring it back to your daily lives when you need a plumber, a contractor, a doctor, a lawyer, a hair stylist/colorist. You don't hire these people to to jobs for you just because they have been paid. Think about what makes you choose one person over another. It's their credentials, references, testimonials, how long they've been in business, these are the things that you qualify them being a professional versus the "other guy". So it is no different in our industry.

as the 2 other ladies before me posted there is alot more that goes into being a professional.

If you are willing to put in the time and money to your craft and into growing your business you will get there. It really comes down to your dedication to the profession.
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Re: becoming a pro

Post by mrs_jaxon16 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 1:20 am

Thanks to everyone for the positive and uplifting advice. I am new to this arena and was wondering about my indoctrination..lol. When I find myself thinking too hard about it, I tell myself "as long as I act like I know what I am doing, I can fool the best of them". With this said, I have my first potential paying gig coming up real soon and I'm anxious...I guess I'll go practice my lines....Action!

As for as the insurance, I was referred to Specialty Insurance. Stephanie was awesome and answered all of my questions. I left a VM and she called me back.

Thanks again for the positive feedback.
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