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Post by Kat's FacesForFun on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:26 pm

So... I finally broke down and got a monthly subscription to fabatv. I'm really drawn to the beautiful masks and butterflies, so I started watching a couple of videos and I couldn't help but notice that the instructors were REALLY old school in the way they lay on their colors! Seriously. They took 10 minutes just to put their bases on because they were laying everything on one color at a time and blending out. Doesn't everyone use arty cakes and split cakes these days for that? Seriously... I wanted to jump through the screen and say, "Here, try this..." These ladies have been painting for YEARS AND YEARS. The finished designs were SOOOOO amazing. WOW. I learned a ton from their line work and technique. But I couldn't help but wonder why they weren't trying new and easier products. Too stubborn to move on?? I have only been painting for about 5 years, so I am all about changing up my setup to accomodate new techniques. Do those of you that have been painting longer find it hard to adopt new techniques?? On a side note, the Wolfe bros did an AMAZING zombie that only took maybe 6 minutes. Wish I had subscribed before October!!


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Re: Old school

Post by wmeventservices on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:49 pm

I've heard many of the seasoned veterans reference some of the new techniques as "fads". Also, some feel that it is added expense that is unnecessary. Also, some like to keep their kits condensed and adding all the split cakes and rainbows just take up too much space. I personally love the new techniques and have adopted them, but I've also only been at this for 4 years.

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Post by Kat's FacesForFun on Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:58 pm

Interesting.. "fads". lol. Seems like if I can cut my butterfly down from 10 min to 5... I'll add what I need to my kit to make it happen. Lynne Jamieson was so cute with the arty cakes. It was like she was afraid of them... but she did a great job with them. she kept saying, "I don't know if this is going to work".... then she would say, "WOW. Awesome."

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Post by theotherphoenix on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:59 am

I know the Wolfe Brothers were quite derisive (nb. 2 years ago when they were here, they might have changed opinion by now) of one-stroke painting. They thought it took just as long to figure out what size and shape of brush to use with which cake of paint as it does to just sponge and line the old way.

To be fair, when you watch them with their half sponges and number 5 round brushes... it's hard to argue with the results! Perhaps it's the same with people using stencils? Maybe to longstanding painters it feels like 'cheating'

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Post by Mehndi Masala on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:07 am

I"m still a noob, but the way I figure it, is that any tool is a tool.

If you don't know how to write longhand, your shorthand is gonna suck. Ok...not the best anology, but you get the idea. If you have the 'real' painting down, then using stuff to cut down your time in a line situation, PPF, festival atmosphere is fair game! But I do notice that if I'm doing something intense, I don't use 1 stroke much at all. If you are not overly artistically gifted, you can make something that would have been 'eh' and turn it into WOW with the split cakes. And if you can already WOW without them, you can often 'OMG!' with them! Love my brushes, loves me some sponges, have kabuki brush will travel, lizard scale stencils rule and don't get between me and my lovely splitcakes!!

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Re: Old school

Post by Kat's FacesForFun on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:37 am

cheers

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Post by theotherphoenix on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:40 am

I should mention that I'm still only half converted to arty cakes. Not to split cakes, or the big spongeable rainbows, LOVE those, but the eeny weeny rainbow cakes. Still don't use them as much as I probably could and my results vary from "omg wow" to "oh wow, wish i'd done that with something else".


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Re: Old school

Post by Kat's FacesForFun on Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:17 am

Ha. Me too. I have SOOOO many artys and I pretty much only use them for cheek butterflies and flowers. I really need to try and use them for my full face butterfiles. Think I will try and play tomorrow.

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Post by Angi on Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:29 am

I just ordered a whole bunch of stencils. I love love love the large rainbow cakes. I am addicted to buying them. I also have a lot of arty cakes but I havent quite dug into those as much. Mine are the old style small squares but now they have the longer ones that seem better.
I am a subsciber to FABA tv and really enjoy most of the videos. I was surprised as well by some of the artists and how uncomfortable they seem. Poor Donna Dewberry had a really hard time and the subscribers had no mercy on her in the comment section. But Mark Reid, HOLLY COW- that guy can paint! Marcella, Lynne and Silly Heather- I could watch them all day.

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Post by Criss on Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:44 am

I use large rainbows n splits, but that's about it. I really do prefer to load my sponge/brush with multiple colours myself and I love the look that happens when I blend. I have competed in a couple body competitions where people thought I had air brushed my colours, because of the blending. To me it's fun Smile

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Post by JBM on Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:41 am

It's been said before but we so totally need a "like" button, cause Kim I' "like that comment. There is a time and place for every tool. most of the big wigs aren't painting ppf with crazy long lines anymore. They are getting the big bucks to do big jobs, and when they did ppf I guess that's what they did. I've got my rainbow splits for butterflies and crazy busy jobs but honestly I think mums and the like sometime look and go "oh yeah i could do that" even though they probably couldn't just cause they think thy split is some kinda magic short cut.

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Post by theotherphoenix on Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:59 am

This is true. Sometimes I'm tempted to let some mums try it and see. While it's super fast and easy when you get the hang of it, it does not do the job for you and if you don't know where to place it in the first place, you still won't get a 'wow' butterfly.

Linework is everything Smile

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Post by rebecca on Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:23 am

hi you guys...

i'll be teaching arty cakes on fabatv in a couple of weeks. i have three classes in mind. and, i'll also be painting on dec. 2nd at the paint a thon. many of you may not know that i'm the creator of arty brush cakes. and, i agree...they are much faster;0

thanks!

ttfn

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Re: Old school

Post by *redStar* on Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:05 am

I have only been face and bodypainting for a year now, so I discovered the splitcakes/ articakes pretty soon after I started and I love them. But there are times where I prefere sponging on the colours individually over using articakes/splitcakes.

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Post by Perry Noia on Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:15 am

There are two reasons why I don't use those things #1. They don't come in Snazaroo (which is all I use) and #2. I prefer to pick my colours independently for every design. I don't even like the look of a full rainbow altogether... too busy with too many colours. I have a few splits but mostly to save space in my laptop case. There are only one or two that I actually use as splits and sponge both colours on at once... it only saves me maybe 30 seconds though and it's only because a pink and purple butterfly or flying unicorn is like THE most requested thing.

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