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Dear swirls and curls - I hate you

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Dear swirls and curls - I hate you

Post by OneFirefly on Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:54 pm

I've just learned how to make roses and I love the design that have swirls and curls coming from them. I just can't seem to get them to look good! I know I'm still new but it's frustrating. I've looked up the youtube tutorials and I still can't get it. My brush is either too wet or too dry, and when I do get the right consistency I can't seem to place them properly. Any help would be greatly appreciated!


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Post by Stacia on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:00 pm

What kind of paint are you using?
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Post by Stacia on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:05 pm

I would say too dry is the issue in the pic, but if you're not using enough water because you'd previously had experiences with it being too wet, it's that you're not activating enough paint to the right consistency. I currently have DFX for line work, and I work mine into almost a heavy cream consistency for line work.

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I usually start out by adding about 4 drops to my cake, then I roll my brush against the paint until the water has pulled enough paint into it to make it coat the brush without dripping off, then I add a couple more drops each time I go back to reload and again, roll my brush against the paint till I get the right consistency. At least that's how I do it Laughing.
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Post by helena on Tue Jan 10, 2012 7:47 pm

Your roses are lovely now!

Maybe more wet and larger brush so you can do thinner and thicker lines. (Press harder for thicker lines, lift up and barely touch for thinner)
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Post by a face painting mom on Tue Jan 10, 2012 8:04 pm

Yes, thin to thick to thin...and load your brush well. Practice the swirls and curls alone as part of your line work. I would work the paint up a little more than you are doing, all the way down to the ferrel of the brush.
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Post by anniel on Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:35 pm

Try a dippy pot for them...then you don't hae to mess with the consistency each time!
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Post by seasung on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:22 pm

Your roses are beautiful!
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Post by OneFirefly on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:23 pm

Ooh I love the dippy pot idea - I'll definitely give it a try!
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Post by Denise Cold on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:46 pm

It's like taking a race car around the track, wherever you would apply the brakes is where you press for thicker and then let up on the gas and accelerate around the next curve picking up speed then hit the brake again. Exaggerate it until it feels comfortable.

I agree about the loading. Linework needs to be a little more wet so you can go more than 2" without reloading.

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Post by Manja on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:53 pm

Denise Cold wrote:It's like taking a race car around the track, wherever you would apply the brakes is where you press for thicker and then let up on the gas and accelerate around the next curve picking up speed then hit the brake again. Exaggerate it until it feels comfortable.

I agree about the loading. Linework needs to be a little more wet so you can go more than 2" without reloading.

D.


YES ~ Your race car analogy is perfect, Denise! That helps put it in perspective. Thanks!
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Post by skjfunny on Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:10 pm

Denise I think I'll paint that on my wall above my practice table!!! Great way to explain curls and swirls. I just hope future new painters will find this thread and read your words.
Maybe there should be a listing for "Basics" words of wisdom from those who have walked through the fire and KNOW how to explain it. cheers sunny
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Post by martha on Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:37 pm

Could I also suggest taking the end of your brush as making a small well in your paint. Couple drops of water, work it a little and you have a nice consistency paint for swirls. Works for me. When "well" get too large for my liking I wait til I have a dry cake and just smoosh it all towards the center to flatten and start over.
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Post by AshleyMarie727 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:32 am

Well your roses look awesome!Very Happy
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Post by martha on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:06 am

Thanks, still working on them. Practice never, ever hurts. Very Happy
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Post by AshleyMarie727 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 8:10 am

Lol that issurely does not! thats one thing i really need to work on myself but i always end up painting something else instead lol!
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Post by Denise Cold on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:17 am

Hey Martha, I just noticed the leaves on your roses are very "tucked in" for lack of a better word....do you do them first?

D.

Thanks for the kind words manja & skjfunny.... Smile
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Post by martha on Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:50 am

Nope, I just kinda started the leaf where I thought it should go. Think it looks OK? Your opinion means a lot to me.
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