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Gem cluster (home made) help needed...Squiggles???

Post by Ester K-D on Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:35 pm

Ok...what am I doing wrong...I have my rubber cement, I have my assorted gems....I've tried all kinds of plastics, sheets, mylar etc... I can't get the gem clusters off the plastic...and they pull apart....how long do I let the rubber cement dry??? AAAGGGHHHHH I am SOOOOOOOO frustrated!!! What am I doing wrong Squiggles?????

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Post by martha on Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:51 pm

Squiggles said transparencies in this thread. http://www.facepaintforum.com/t8239-creating-your-own-gem-clusters


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Post by Ester K-D on Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:01 pm

Thanks Martha...I'll look up transparancies and see if they are what I'm using - I have to remember to let it dry at least 24 hours too...wish me luck! Smile thanks for the help!

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Post by martha on Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:01 pm

Welcome!
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Post by squiggle on Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:01 am

Thanks, Marta!

Yep, you can use just plain transparencies that you can buy at Walmart. I'm also a home designer and have some mylar left over from when we drew blueprints by hand with ink (yes, I AM that old!) and I've been using that, but I've used the transparencies as well and they work just fine. Give it at least 24 hours to dry... preferably 2-3 days if you can. And you MUST use a large cushion of glue, not just brushing a little on the plastic then putting the gems down. The gems need to "float" on top of the glue.

My daughter has finally agreed to let me paint on her again (long story...) so I'm trying to get some new pics done with the homemade gem clusters. I'll post them as soon as I do Smile
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Post by artyfacesbyluz on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:54 am

Why bother about peeling the gems off the transparencies? I tried this and the clusters came apart so I decided to shape the plastic around the gems and it worked perfect, we just can glue the transparency to the skin with the body glue.
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Post by squiggle on Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:59 am

Yes, that would probably work for small clusters Smile

The ones I'm doing are quite large and need to be more flexible than the transparency would allow. I tried doing that and it just wasn't flexible enough to lie flat against the skin in between the eyes/lower forehead area.
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Post by squiggle on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:08 pm

This is one of my home made gem clusters... a very large one for the center and two smaller ones for the sides. These were done with rubber cement, let dry, then I just peel them off the plastic and use body glue to attach them to the skin. Hope this is clear enough for you to see:



The individual gems are still flexible enough in the cluster to position as I need to, to make the entire cluster lie flat against the skin. Working in the 3D environment with a face, the cluster really needs to be very flexible.
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Post by Anamootoo on Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:52 pm

They're gorgeous, Dawnie. I'm doing something wrong. (sigh)
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Post by squiggle on Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:24 pm

You could try wax paper... I've used that as well. The surface where you glue the clusters needs to be very slippery for the glue to "slide off" when it's dry... does that make sense? LOL It's very hard to describe. If I don't use enough glue (rubber cement) then the gems do not come off the plastic, no matter how hard I try. Use waaaay more glue than you think you need to.

I experimented with this over and over, using all types of glues and ways of glueing, until I figured out that the gems cannot come close to the plastic- there HAS to be the rubber between them.
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Post by artyfacesbyluz on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:38 am

LOVE you!! squiggle, now I understand what you mean, I didn't use enough glue and my clusters were small, they didn't come out of the plastic or peel with the silver part of the gem.
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Post by squiggle on Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:46 am

I'm glad! This is so hard to describe... you're pretty much peeling the rubber cement off the plastic, not the gems.. the gems just come with the rubber when you peel it up... that's about the only way I can explain it LOL
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Post by Anamootoo on Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:59 pm

Ahh, I see now! Will try again tonight. Thanks, Dawnie!
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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:35 pm

ok I mde 4 examples which are in the process of drying. I don't know that I would do these again on regular basis, but if there was a special look that I wanted to create then I would. I prefer the ones I bought and have enough of a stash to last a very very very long time.

Here they are

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Post by ChangingFaceDesigns on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:04 pm

Ok here is one of the four gem clusters applied. Did a real quick no thought design just so I could stick this thing on my face.

Did it work (yes)
Am i gld I tried it (yes)
Would i do it again ( uhhhh no)

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Post by squiggle on Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:12 pm

LOL!

I only do the gem clusters myself because I can't afford the cost of buying them. Don't have a Michael's near me Sad And it's turned into a nice little hobby... I have a lap board that I use and I pull it out at night when I'm watching ... er.....listening to the tv LOL
I've also set up a system with a binder and everything to store them in.
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Post by Ester K-D on Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:14 pm

I'm SO glad I re-started this question! I've learned SO much more from these posts...my big problem? NOT GIVING ENOUGH TIME TO DRY!!! (impatient!) With a thick blob to start the final layer is the right thickness...with a thiner layer of glue, you'll never get it off the plastic...but if you do it on really thin plastic you could certainly just 'cut out' the pattern and glue on...but it would have to be very thin to make the cluster flexible! (wonder if plastic wrap would work for that?) Anyways...I had a bunch of loose gems...and thought I'd do some 'special' stuff with them...patterns I'd never find in a store! Thanks everyone!!!

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Post by sistersarg on Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:24 pm

I confused about the cement. Does it touch the skin? Is rubber cement ok to be touching the skin? Are these then glued on to the skin with safe skin glue - and does that glue react with the rubber cement.

Just new to using gems so I am trying to understand.

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Post by LillyW on Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:14 pm

I made my FIRST ever how to video, about this topic.  Maybe you will get a few ideas  Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm98WW8P3zM
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